Czechlad Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 hours ago, guyavfc said: Think fitness has been this guys issue. I agree. He never looked fully fit even in RDM's XI. Bruce said a lot of the squad was not fully fit and wanted more. Doesn't surprise me that Westwood and Gardner keep getting in front of Tshibola because those two word hard in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Grasshopper said: But he cant be blamed for not being here from the off true but not his fault He signed mid August at that point we had played 3 games and had 4 points. I don't know who's fault it is that it took him to mid November to look somewhat like the player we thought we signed. A 32 y.o seasoned professional and leader should Imo be able to walk right into the team when dropping down a league if he has done his summer training. Not really my point, as he might have had his whole off season ruined by injuries. But Di Matteo sure didn't help anyone either. Point was that with him and Tshibola both failing to get fit (or whatever the reason is) we have suffered as a team and are still playing Westy and Gardener closing in on the Christmas period languishing at 15th in the table. So I stand by that the summer recruits in CM hasn't really worked out and it's costing us big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I don't know if he's had injuries, but I think when he has played he has looked fit enough and covered a great deal of the pitch. It's hard to pick many decent midfield performances, Bacuna has probably been the most consistent when he's played which hasn't been many games. Gardener has had maybe two decent games. Jed maybe 3 good ish games. Tish 2 or 3, but he's not played many. Our midfield is a shambles to be honest and the reason we are not higher up the table. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KSV Posted December 6, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2016 Amazing how he doesnt play. Bacuna and Tshibola would be much more energetic and creative than Westwood/Gardner. Westwood and Gardner are just runners. Tshibola would drive through midfield and dribble.. whilst Bacuna would make forward advanced runs/pick some passes. Great variety to go with Jedinak. Just cant believe we havent played them together yet. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC44 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Because they've both been unfit/injured since Bruce took over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 hours ago, AVFC44 said: Because they've both been unfit/injured since Bruce took over? Tishbola doesn't appear to be injured though. There's no mention that he's out injured in any team news recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Needs to get himself back in the team for either gardener or Westwood. Looked good when he played and also was a threat physically and attacking wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 7 hours ago, AVFC44 said: Because they've both been unfit/injured since Bruce took over? doesnt appear that way in the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 5 hours ago, villa89 said: Tishbola doesn't appear to be injured though. There's no mention that he's out injured in any team news recently. I'd say maybe not injured, but not fully fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 5 hours ago, villa89 said: Tishbola doesn't appear to be injured though. There's no mention that he's out injured in any team news recently. Yes there doesn't appear to be specific injury but it doesn't mean there isn't something that is hampering him training to the level that is required. Or of course it might not be injury related at all that he is out of favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I think he's just out of favour as hes never mentioned in Bruce Press conference. If he was carrying an injury he would mention it. He's already got more goals than our midfield combined and has barely played. Hes had a few under 23 games for a few weeks now. I hope he starts against wigan. Give westy a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 This one really does baffle me, it seems EVERY manager has ONE which baffles all of us ffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I was thinking this was a good signing......i am clueless what's gone wrong here, but something must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) I was sceptical of him being more than a squad option for most of his first season here, but I think he looked pretty solid at first. Signing a player who has played so few career games and also just came back from a long term injury is always going to be a gamble. Third of a season in the Championship, half a season in League 2 and a bunch of youth games is not a lot even for a young player. We basically paid £5-5.5m for a Yacuba Sylla type signing, but who will hopefully get through whatever it is that is keeping him out of the squad. Edited December 9, 2016 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 On 12/7/2016 at 12:00, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This one really does baffle me, it seems EVERY manager has ONE which baffles all of us ffs. Outside of a couple of early appearances I haven't been that impressed with him. I don't think his absence is massively baffling tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 30 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Outside of a couple of early appearances I haven't been that impressed with him. I don't think his absence is massively baffling tbh. It is all opinion, of course, Dr, but I thought he was considerably better than Gardner and Westwood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2016 I thought he was considerably better than Westwood and Gardner ifor about 30 minutes against Newcastle. Apart from that he's not done much. However I fully suspect his issue is a fitness one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I thought he looked promising, not amazing but showed glimpses. But with Gardner and Westwood putting in some of the performances they have, I'm surprised he hasn't had another chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2016 Like I said above, I suspect his problem is fitness. Had he been fully fit for an extended period I reckon he'd be in the team by now. His past history suggests he struggles fitness wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted December 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2016 Hes strong, quick and is comfortable with the ball at his feet; He should be way ahead of the 2 usual suspects. However that alone is worrying! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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