useless Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 One of the names in the thread title will be a hereo next season (at least on the pitch). It's the 'Sports Illustrated curse' in reverse.
briny_ear Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 On 6/20/2016 at 08:52, Stevo985 said: Guzan spat some chewing gum at the pitch. In a game where he was sub keeper and we'd already made 3 subs. It was also reported that he told a fan who remonstrated with him to "**** off". I wonder if that is why people have taken against him a little.
TrentVilla Posted June 22, 2016 Moderator Posted June 22, 2016 On 21 June 2016 at 11:46, useless said: One of the names in the thread title will be a hereo next season (at least on the pitch). It's the 'Sports Illustrated curse' in reverse. Only if we sign a player called Chance. 2
useless Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 That's over my head. One of the players may well have a good next season, but chances are it won't be for us.
Stevo985 Posted June 22, 2016 VT Supporter Posted June 22, 2016 4 hours ago, briny_ear said: It was also reported that he told a fan who remonstrated with him to "**** off". I wonder if that is why people have taken against him a little. That's news to me. Any link to where this was "reported"?
Guest av1 Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, Stevo985 said: That's news to me. Any link to where this was "reported"? Quote Aston Villa fans have complained to the club after claiming Brad Guzan and Joleon Lescottboth told them to “f*** off.” The row in the second half of the Premier League basement side's 1-1 FA Cup draw at League Two Wycombe prompted skipper Micah Richards to intervene. Richards pleaded with fuming fans behind the dug-out after they criticised subs Guzan and Lescott on the bench for their attitude. The pair, who earn around £40,000-a-week, upset them by have a spitting competition to see who could propel chewing gum closest to the touchline. A eyewitness told Aston Villa fanpage Vitalfootball.co.uk: “I object to two senior players spending 90 minutes laughing and joking on the bench and littering the pitch with their chewing in some sort of childish game. “The guy next to me knocked on the dugout, they both turned round, we said they were disgraceful and obviously didn't care. “With that Guzan told him to 'f**k off', I knocked the dugout and told Lescott he is supposed to be Villa to which he replied:' I am'. “He turned away, I knocked the dug out again and said: 'why are you not acting like one?' with which he said: 'f**k off'. Mirror Edited June 23, 2016 by av1
Stevo985 Posted June 23, 2016 VT Supporter Posted June 23, 2016 Ta. If true then he's gone down in my estimation.
HanoiVillan Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 Let's put it this way: I won't be booing RDM's first teamsheet, but I'll be pretty **** disappointed if any of these clearings in the woods are on it, and the same goes for Sinclair as well. 3
dounavilla Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 Can't agree more. Would honestly be gutted if any of these players are starting for us next season. It would be like you start dating a new girl but you find out she was previously screwing someone you hate.
Ikantcpell Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 Noway, i dont want to see them in a villa shirt ever again. They are an embarrassment to the human race and they can all just **** off and die!
The Moustache of Teale Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 30 minutes ago, Ikantcpell said: Noway, i dont want to see them in a villa shirt ever again. They are an embarrassment to the human race and they can all just **** off and die! So, just to clear things up, you're not that keen on any of them? 2
Kingman Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 Nope... They have got more faults that San Andrea's.
sne Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 8 hours ago, Kingman said: Nope... They have got more faults that San Andrea's. True, but neither were helped by the performance of "The Rock" 1
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 My order of priority for getting rid: 1.The 'gotta go' category Bacuna Gabby Lescott All of them are (a) not good enough and (b) their attitude stinks. Ship them out as soon as possible, they absolutely cannot be here next season. 2. The 'last chance saloon' category Guzan Richards Both for me could redeem themselves and may have their uses - Guzan as reserve keeper and Richards as an option against more physical one dimensional teams. It would need them to do some serious grovelling to the fans though. 3. The 'jurys out' category Sinclair Sanchez Hutton Westwood Clark Wouldn't be upset to see any of them go, don't think any of them do enough to warrant a place in the first team, however we can't ship them all out so RDM may have to decide on which of these can do a job for next season vs who just isn't worth the place. Everyone else is good for either a first team or squad place next season. 2
Gary Thomas Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 (edited) I agree with the categories as a basic ranking in terms of who we must sell and who we should sell when/if we can. Below is my slightly adjusted ranking in terms of selling priority. As you say the top three should be moved on as a matter of urgency - even if it costs us financially. I think we need to make a statement to some of the other players that we will not tolerate lackluster performances or poor attitudes anymore. If I am honest I would also like us to replace Guzan - not because he has a poor attitude or anything, but because his confidence will be very brittle after the car crash last season. Saying that, maybe Massimo Battara can help him to rediscover his form and confidence so i would be OK if we give him one more chance. Richards is a funny one - the guy has played RB in a PL winning side, but he was awful at times last year. Maybe Clarke and RDM can help to get his fitness and performances back to what they were in those halcyon days - I wouldn't be devastated if he was around next year, but I would look to bring in a strong right back and then let Richards, Hutton and that new right back fight it out - the same with Clark and a new CB. In midfield, we should look to try and find better replacements for Westwood, Sanchez and Sinclair, but if we can't they can do a job in the championship. Bacuna, Gabby Lescott Guzan Richards Hutton Clark Westwood Sanchez Sinclair Edited June 26, 2016 by Gary Thomas
NoelVilla Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 Gabby, Lescott and Bacuna. NO. Richards and Guzan. Maybe but ideally we get rid.
Grasshopper Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 On 26. Juni 2016 at 12:39, Gary Thomas said: out -attitude Bacuna, Gabby Lescott Out - shot Guzan RB or out Richards Out - better players in Hutton Clark Westwood Second chance Sanchez Out - sheister doesnt care Sinclair Fresh start keep okore amavi gana ayew adama vertout grealish gil youth & new blood
Raymond Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 On June 25, 2016 at 17:02, Ikantcpell said: Noway, i dont want to see them in a villa shirt ever again. They are an embarrassment to the human race and they can all just **** off and die! Seems reasonable. 1
rodders0223 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Can't see us shifting Lescott or Richards. Along with their 40k+ salaries, they are the most important.
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Gabby - 1 last chance, if he is fit and has the bit between his teeth and properly tries to make a mends then he will be an asset in the League we are in. If he is fit and up for it, he will probably be one of the fastest players in our league. I look at it this way, the kid is one of us and has had to suffer so many useless mangers / players / strike partners and the slow death of the Villa, yes he is on good money but other than that the club has never met him half way. Give him till Jan. Lescott - Nope - knobhead Guzan - Nope - Purely becasue I think he is not good enough. Richards - 1 last chance - Too much experience to throw away especially in the Championship where the games will be of less quality, he should find it a very easy time.
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