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26 minutes ago, hippo said:

I don't think think we do own any land other than Bodymoor heath..

I am not aware of Xia saying anything about development either - other than the 'theme park' - which will predictably never be heard of again...

We own a number of acres of land behind the North Stand, Ellis always bought any land for sale around that area

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16 minutes ago, tismyk said:

We own a number of acres of land behind the North Stand, Ellis always bought any land for sale around that area

I thought we had sold that ?

What is on the land currently ?

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1 hour ago, hippo said:

I thought we had sold that ?

What is on the land currently ?

A number of buildings to the right of the  VIlla shop, the indoor cricket/football buildings and I think the old Transport Museum, Ellis always bought any property for sale there, just hope it was for the Villa rather than himself

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19 hours ago, The Fun Factory said:

Interesting that at Everton Wyness sold land off owned by the club for development. Villa have loads of land at the park of Villa Park, I wonder what will happen? Wiki also says that he supported the 39th game idea- though we have 8 extra games next season but all to be based in Britain lol.

He seems to have written his own Wiki page. Very rosy.

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2 hours ago, tismyk said:

A number of buildings to the right of the  VIlla shop, the indoor cricket/football buildings and I think the old Transport Museum, Ellis always bought any property for sale there, just hope it was for the Villa rather than himself

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Dream scenario for me would be x4 distinct stands with a sliding  roof & pitch. Build a hotel on the land between the holte & pub. Then we will have a super duper all purpose stadium with excellent transport links and can host concerts/trade shows/boxing etc all year round, not just in the off season. With the hallowed turf protected, the stadium could create a lot more revenue on non match days. 

I heard from someone who works at Atkins engineering about Randy's previous plans and he said they were similar to Chelsea's shed end with an inbuilt club shop, museum, conference centre, can't remember if he said a hotel also. Plenty of scope for development. 

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1 hour ago, thabucks said:

a hotel also. Plenty of scope for development. 

 

Dream scenario for me would be x4 distinct stands with a sliding  roof & pitch. Build a hotel on the land between the holte & pub. Then we will have a super duper all purpose stadium with excellent transport links and can host concerts/trade shows/boxing etc all year round, not just in the off season. With the hallowed turf protected, the stadium could create a lot more revenue on non match days. 

I heard from someone who works at Atkins engineering about Randy's previous plans and he said they were similar to Chelsea's shed end with an inbuilt club shop, museum, conference centre, can't remember if he said

These were the last pics I saw for future development of the North Stand, not sure if genuine.

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38 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said:

Which will make no money at all.

How did you form this opinion? Is it based on current / projected visitors to the city, particularly from China? I think to pull people out of the city and to bulk up both the match day and non-match day package then there has to be something more available to do at or near Villa Park. Short term Xia might not want to do anything big, but if the project catches there's no reason to think he's limited to the land we already own. Building stuff is what he does. The North Stand car park might be reserved for the roof when it's not in use :) 

(Just noticed my autocorrect has been uncorrecting Xia's name. Oops)

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6 minutes ago, limpid said:

How did you form this opinion? Is it based on current / projected visitors to the city, particularly from China? I think to pull people out of the city and to bulk up both the match day and non-match day package then there has to be something more available to do at or near Villa Park. Short term Xia might not want to do anything big, but if the project catches there's no reason to think he's limited to the land we already own. Building stuff is what he does. The North Stand car park might be reserved for the roof when it's not in use :) 

(Just noticed my autocorrect has been uncorrecting Xia's name. Oops)

Because nobody comes to Aston apart from the match days.Preston had the national football museum but they had to close it as nobody went, and is now in the centre of Manchester.  We are a championship club who have not come in the top 5 for 20 years and unless drastic changes happen I don't think we are going to hit the megaclub jackpot. Promotion and getting 35,000 crowds would do for me. 

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9 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said:

Because nobody comes to Aston apart from the match days.Preston had the national football museum but they had to close it as nobody went, and is now in the centre of Manchester.  We are a championship club who have not come in the top 5 for 20 years and unless drastic changes happen I don't think we are going to hit the megaclub jackpot. Promotion and getting 35,000 crowds would do for me. 

Taking our owner at his word, that won't do for him, so he has to be ready to offer more. It's not all going to happen at once.

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Dream scenario for me would be x4 distinct stands with a sliding  roof & pitch. Build a hotel on the land between the holte & pub. Then we will have a super duper all purpose stadium with excellent transport links and can host concerts/trade shows/boxing etc all year round, not just in the off season. With the hallowed turf protected, the stadium could create a lot more revenue on non match days. 

I heard from someone who works at Atkins engineering about Randy's previous plans and he said they were similar to Chelsea's shed end with an inbuilt club shop, museum, conference centre, a hotel, a casino, a Burger King and a massage parlour.

 

 

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2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said:

Because nobody comes to Aston apart from the match days.Preston had the national football museum but they had to close it as nobody went, and is now in the centre of Manchester.  We are a championship club who have not come in the top 5 for 20 years and unless drastic changes happen I don't think we are going to hit the megaclub jackpot. Promotion and getting 35,000 crowds would do for me. 

I think the point is something mega IS supposed to be changing.  We are supposed to be on the path to being one of the top 3 clubs in the world. With the former chairman saying our new owner has ambitious plans for ASTON not just The Villa. 

Now OK that all might be pie in the sky cow poop but I think people are talking about what might happen if Xia is good to his word and drastic changes ARE on the way. 

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2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said:

Because nobody comes to Aston apart from the match days.Preston had the national football museum but they had to close it as nobody went, and is now in the centre of Manchester.  

Not sure that's true, I think it was mainly due to the Urbis Building needing a client and therefore Manchester Council paying a wedge to move the Football Musuem into that building.

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We could use the land to build a KebabHouse (best in the world - oversized portions) a W-hor-eHouse and an exclusive night club with secret tunnels to Kebab/W-horeHouses.

We'd have no problem getting 90% of Gaby's wages back each month for the next 2 years ( then negotiate an extention)

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On 20 June 2016 at 19:57, The Fun Factory said:

Because nobody comes to Aston apart from the match days.Preston had the national football museum but they had to close it as nobody went, and is now in the centre of Manchester.  We are a championship club who have not come in the top 5 for 20 years and unless drastic changes happen I don't think we are going to hit the megaclub jackpot. Promotion and getting 35,000 crowds would do for me. 

How many people go to star city? How many people have visited resorts world since it opened? Both are outside of the city centre

take today as an example, how many people do you think visited villa park? Maybe a tour, maybe someone booked a meeting, maybe a function tonight, 100 people at best

if Tony builds a casino, a hotel, some shops, restaurants, a cinema and a football museum how many people will have visited villa park today? More than 100 that's for sure, it'll get non villa fans, non football fans spending money that will make its way back to villa

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And if we build a casino we could give Gabby, Lescott and our other has been's that we can't get rid of jobs as greeters standing around in roman costumes telling visitors about our deluxe specials.

 

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On 6/20/2016 at 13:57, The Fun Factory said:

Because nobody comes to Aston apart from the match days.Preston had the national football museum but they had to close it as nobody went, and is now in the centre of Manchester.  We are a championship club who have not come in the top 5 for 20 years and unless drastic changes happen I don't think we are going to hit the megaclub jackpot. Promotion and getting 35,000 crowds would do for me. 

And Disney was a fool for buying all that swamp land in Florida.  Didn't he know that hardly anybody ever visited the citrus tower nearby?   (actually, I am one of the 83 people that visited the Citrus tower before Disney bought all that land.)  Sometimes, not always, but sometimes, "if you build it, they will come."

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