mikeyp102 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Wyness on the other hand is in it for himself. You know this as a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Haha, you beat me to it. Fox wasn't a CEO, he was in the wrong role and therefore was really bad at it. I'm sure he tried his best but just conpleted messed it up. Wyness on the other hand is in it for himself. No matter how successful he turns out to be for the club I bet he becomes very very wealthy during his time at Villa. What do you think Tom Fox was in it for? Keith Wyness is the CEO of a football club. A big one. Yes he will make a lot of money if he's good at his job. What a **** weird reason to dislike somebody. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, dont_do_it_doug. said: What do you think Tom Fox was in it for? Keith Wyness is the CEO of a football club. A big one. Yes he will make a lot of money if he's good at his job. What a **** weird reason to dislike somebody. I already stated many times it's not the reason I dislike him. The reason is his face. He will make a lot of money even if he is not good at his job. You'll see in time and I'll have to keep telling you I told you so don't cry about it when the time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: I already stated many times it's not the reason I dislike him. The reason is his face. He will make a lot of money even if he is not good at his job. You'll see in time and I'll have to keep telling you I told you so don't cry about it when the time comes. I'm not going to award you internet points for some random ass guess. You're alright. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: You know this as a fact? Some very reliable ITK sources. All in saying is regardless of what happens to Villa. Our CEO will come out of it very prosperous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Some very reliable ITK sources. All in saying is regardless of what happens to Villa. Our CEO will come out of it very prosperous. Mate I'm a bloody socialist and even to me this is starting to sound like you've forgotten to take your pills. "Man in high pressured job gets paid well shocker" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Mate I'm a bloody socialist and even to me this is starting to sound like you've forgotten to take your pills. "Man in high pressured job gets paid well shocker" I haven't got a problem with his salary. Im just saying he will rake it in even if the club fails. He will have a lot of vested interest in stadium expansion deals I can assure you. This will be his main motivation if or when we are promoted. Regardless of our current attendances. You'll see in time. If we don't go up this year im pretty sure we'll have a new CEO next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I haven't got a problem with his salary. Im just saying he will rake it in even if the club fails. He will have a lot of vested interest in stadium expansion deals I can assure you. This will be his main motivation if or when we are promoted. Regardless of our current attendances. You'll see in time. If we don't go up this year im pretty sure we'll have a new CEO next year. Fancy putting your money where your mouth is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, The Fun Factory said: Giving Lambert and Gabby contract extensions in autumn 2014 when neither deserved it. He oversaw a car crash of a transfer window in 2015. Our spending was comfortably prem mid table yet we stunk the place out the following year with 3 wins. Firing Sherwood and getting Garde him who was completely the wrong man at the wrong time. He might have been a decent commercial guy but knew nothing about football and it showed. I know this annoys alot of people, but you do realise at the time Gabby was still a relatively highly rated and important part of the squad right. Even if not at that EXACT time, this was on the back of some of his best seasons. ALSO, after a period where we were getting shafted for players getting let go on the cheap because of silly clauses and negligence. They probably wen too extreme the opposite way with their but oh well. Thats why you don't give a Commercial Officer such a huge role in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: What do you think Tom Fox was in it for? Keith Wyness is the CEO of a football club. A big one. Yes he will make a lot of money if he's good at his job. What a **** weird reason to dislike somebody. Nah mate you are of no benefit to AVFC unless you bleed Claret and Blue, and were born in the centre circle. Good thing no one else at AVFC is getting wealthy off of it. Players for Pringles, Tea Ladys for kebabs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Fancy putting your money where your mouth is? Lets hear the terms mister! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Er no that was on back of a season scoring 4 goals and a total 27 goals in 132 games in 5 seasons. That's about 1 goal in 5 games. He had 1 good season under Lambert and that's been it for this entire decade. Utter madness. Well in hindsight, perhaps. But let's keep it real, the majority would not have thought his career would go as it has, and he was young enough. Either way, substitute Gabbys name for another, and bottom line they went over board trying to protect "assets" to avoid getting shagged. EDIT: He had good season under Lambert? Has MON era been wiped from Internet records or? Edited January 25, 2018 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Well in hindsight, perhaps. But let's keep it real, the majority would not have thought his career would go as it has, and he was young enough. Either way, substitute Gabbys name for another, and bottom line they went over board trying to protect "assets" to avoid getting shagged. EDIT: He had good season under Lambert? Has MON era been wiped from Internet records or? No I said this decade. Basing a massive new contract on what a professional footballer did quite well 4 years ago previously does not constitute good decision making in my opinion. Under Fox's watch they did also not protect Albrighton- who left on a free and helped Leicester win the league. Clueless. Edited January 25, 2018 by The Fun Factory 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 55 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: No I said this decade. Basing a massive new contract on what a professional footballer did quite well 4 years ago previously does not constitute good decision making in my opinion. Under Fox's watch they did also not protect Albrighton- who left on a free and helped Leicester win the league. Clueless. Not that I'm arguing in favour of Fox, because he oversaw the biggest shambles that I've ever experienced at Villa, but Albrighton wanted to go. He was old enough to play games but not ready to consistently be in our team, also didn't want a loan again, he wanted to be settled somewhere, he dropped down a division when he left don't forget...also, didn't he leave before Fox got the job? (genuinely asking, I was sure he left before Fox's master plan was put into effect but could be wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted January 25, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: All in saying is regardless of what happens to Villa. Our CEO will come out of it very prosperous. As will everybody else employed by the club outside of junior and/or administrative positions. The level of their prosperity will be directly related to the amount of responsibility associated to their role (except for the players, where Micah Richards will earn more than Conor Hourihane, for example). This model is replicated in pretty much every company in the whole wide world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 He seems to have all his ducks in a row for me. word of advice for any fan that knows folk who work for villa, ( from experience) take it with a pince of salt. many employees at any large company have an axe to grind, for one reason or another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Either way, substitute Gabbys name for another, and bottom line they went over board trying to protect "assets" to avoid getting shagged. Well considering how many kids he has with different women I’d say the club definitely failed Gabby there. Edited January 25, 2018 by Ginko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: As will everybody else employed by the club outside of junior and/or administrative positions. The level of their prosperity will be directly related to the amount of responsibility associated to their role (except for the players, where Micah Richards will earn more than Conor Hourihane, for example). This model is replicated in pretty much every company in the whole wide world. And as I've said many times I don't have a problem with that. He gets paid for the job he does. He will prosper mainly from ground development and then move on. That is his main concern. In what state the playing team is in by the time he leaves, only time will tell. But the stadium will be vastly improved I am sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Giving Lambert and Gabby contract extensions in autumn 2014 when neither deserved it. He oversaw a car crash of a transfer window in 2015. Our spending was comfortably prem mid table yet we stunk the place out the following year with 3 wins. Firing Sherwood and getting Garde him who was completely the wrong man at the wrong time. He might have been a decent commercial guy but knew nothing about football and it showed. Below are all 5 comments from the Daily Mail article which was published when Gabby was given his contract extension - Was superb against Hull. Can be frustrating at times but still a good footballer who generally gives 100%. Local boy who'll play his entire career for the team he supports. Very proud to be a Villa fan. (2 Likes, 1 Dislike) Agree with you 100% apart from supporting us, he grew up an Arsenal fan unfortunately and mentioned this when interviewed with Young a few years back. (4 likes, 0 dislikes) Great news! Now let's get Vlaar, Delph and Grealish signed up too! (13 likes, 0 dislikes) Good to see that much loyalty from both club and player. (25 likes, 0 dislikes) Looked like the old Gabby against Hull, unplayable. Had a terrible season last year but I'm optimistic he will step up this year. Let's get Delph and young Jack signed now. Think, sadly, Vlaar will go at the end of the season - hope I am wrong. (23 likes, 1 dislike) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2750982/Gabby-Agbonlahor-signs-new-four-year-contract-Aston-Villa.html 2 days later Gabby scored the winner in our 0-1 win against Liverpool at Anfield, which took us up to 2nd in the table with 10 points after 4 games - our best opening tally in 16 years. The last time we made an equally impressive start was in 98/99 when we went on to be top of the table at Christmas and finished 6th. Lambert's contract was extended after the win at Anfield. Both their contracts were due to expire at the end of that season. While you can argue with the timing or length of the extensions, the decision was a more than reasonable one. Our signings under Fox were decent enough. Gil in the January transfer window and a mixed bag the next window, but for me, Gueye, Amavi and Traore were top quality signings. On the other hand, I assume he was responsible for appointing Sherwood which was a big, big mistake. Edited January 26, 2018 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: And as I've said many times I don't have a problem with that. He gets paid for the job he does. He will prosper mainly from ground development and then move on. That is his main concern. In what state the playing team is in by the time he leaves, only time will tell. But the stadium will be vastly improved I am sure of that. Well that’s good news also then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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