Stevo985 Posted August 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) 20 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Honestly, players generally just don't give a **** about pre season games and I'm getting the impression as time goes by that neither do managers. They literally treat it like a training session and I think given the choice they would rather play them behind closed doors. West Brom lost 2-1 to Torquay last night. My mate was there, said they were diabolical. Then they all hit a club with the managers blessing as they had today off. My mate wasn't bothered because he's of the same mindset, it's just a kick about. It means so little. I didn't even know our result from Saturday until tonight and that's only really because I wanted to look up Middlesbrough's squad. I pay the absolute minimum attention to it and I think that's for the best, it saves me getting worked up over nothing. Yep, very much this. I haven't even commented on any of the pre season games except to say that nobody should be drawing any conclusions from them. I gave a summary of what I saw at Cambridge, but again I drew no conclusions from it. The games mean nothing. And that's not me trying to be positive. If we'd beaten Boro 5-0 I'd be saying the same thing. They're meaningless. They're not worth the effort to care about them either way. Edited August 3, 2016 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 3 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I haven't seen the game no for the other reasons I gave. Obviously. Sorry, I didn't see any reasons. was just asking. Obviously. (?) I thought you might have found my views on what happened interesting, that's all, given you r comment above. , never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 minute ago, terrytini said: Sorry, I didn't see any reasons. was just asking. Obviously. (?) I thought you might have found my views on what happened interesting, that's all, given you r comment above. , never mind. My reasons are; Quote Honestly, players generally just don't give a **** about pre season games and I'm getting the impression as time goes by that neither do managers. They literally treat it like a training session and I think given the choice they would rather play them behind closed doors. West Brom lost 2-1 to Torquay last night. My mate was there, said they were diabolical. Then they all hit a club with the managers blessing as they had today off. My mate wasn't bothered because he's of the same mindset, it's just a kick about. It means so little. I didn't even know our result from Saturday until tonight and that's only really because I wanted to look up Middlesbrough's squad. I pay the absolute minimum attention to it and I think that's for the best, it saves me getting worked up over nothing. Apologies for being ratty. I had 4 hours kip last night due to an unrelated incident! I took your comments on board but to be quite honest I still feel exactly the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 31 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yep, very much this. I haven't even commented on any of the pre season games except to say that nobody should be drawing any conclusions from them. I gave a summary of what I saw at Cambridge, but again I drew no conclusions from it. The games mean nothing. And that's not me trying to be positive. If we'd beaten Boro 5-0 I'd be saying the same thing. They're meaningless. They're not worth the effort to care about them either way. We all know what friendlies are about, and normally I'd agree with you. That really wasn't the issue at the weekend. You are not concerned about the clear way the players collapsed when Boro scored ? Everyone I know that went was, and I was. It might not matter, but it was so reminiscent of last year it made pretty disturbing viewing. For my part, 2 or three more changes in addition to a new striker could remove the problem, but as it stands, the players did not look mentally stronger in the least, and the fact it was only a friendly made that even more of a concern. If we had lost 5-0 but it had just looked like a typical pre-season friendly performance I wouldn't have been bothered, but it wasn't like that, and it has nothing to do with the score really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 minute ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: My reasons are; Apologies for being ratty. I had 4 hours kip last night due to an unrelated incident! I took your comments on board but to be quite honest I still feel exactly the same. I hope you are right, I really do. One thing I think will be very positively different is the presence of a goalscorer. It was/is hard to be sure how much of last seasons mental fragility was due to character defects (hard to remove) and how much was just a 'rational despair' at knowing we couldn't score goals so any conceded meant game over. New Striker could make a massive difference to that if so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 hour ago, terrytini said: You are not concerned about the clear way the players collapsed when Boro scored ? I honestly couldn't give the tiniest of shits about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: I honestly couldn't give the tiniest of shits about it. normally I would agree with you about pre-season games but the Boro game 2nd half was just too eerie to last season debacle that I dont think it can be ignored 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Preseasons to me are a chance to get new players looked at within the squad and play around with formations and tactics. It's as much about what doesn't work as what does. I don't think 'match fitness' comes in to it now as like you say, people don't treat it with much dedication. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Blame the internet, we can see highlights, news reports etc of pre-season matches. In the 90s, fans didnt know who the team played or where in pre-season. No-one gave a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 2 hours ago, R.Bear said: Blame the internet, we can see highlights, news reports etc of pre-season matches. In the 90s, fans didnt know who the team played or where in pre-season. No-one gave a shit. ? Think maybe you've forgotten we can actually attend matches ? I used to go to friendlies before the internet, and I still go now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 1 hour ago, terrytini said: ? Think maybe you've forgotten we can actually attend matches ? I used to go to friendlies before the internet, and I still go now. what? WHAT? what is this witchcraft???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 He's doing the pre-match press conference live on Facebook at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 16 minutes ago, nobler said: He's doing the pre-match press conference live on Facebook at 3. where on Facebook? Can't see anything on the Facebook official Villa page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshharris12 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Can't see nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Can't see it either. The official Twitter tweeted it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 It's up now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 They didn't put the last one on AVTV HD. I don't use **** Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 On 6 June 2016 at 17:41, mjmooney said: have to say I'm really liking RDMs management style thus far in terms of what he says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 What I like about Di Matteo's work so far is that he's given us a spine to the team. Bringing in Gollini, Elphick, Tshibola and McCormack shows a good old-fashioned management style of reinforcing down the middle of the team and I like that. I think it shows a mentality of adding a bit of steel and hopefully we will see a Villa that has a more competitive edge about them, rather than the powder-puff showing that we had last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm enjoying how open he is to talking about transfer situations. He sounds confident in the resources available and it gives me confidence that there's nothing to hide at the club anymore. Contrast this to Garde having to do coy press conferences throughout January with the worry that Fox/Lerner wouldn't sanction any deals at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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