Villa Park redevelopment

[DaveAV1 6,281]

2 hours ago, sidcow said:

It could do with some more bogs though. 

There’s a place in Small Heath if you’re looking for sh1th0les 

[Sulberto21 1,631]

Most match day revenue from the other clubs allegedly comes from the corporate market. Eventually we'd need to increase that side of the business to bring in more match day revenue. 

On a personal note I'd love it if we owned the land immediately surrounding the ground. So there'd be no houses and no road immediately in the vicinity of the ground. We could have made the outside areas of the ground like a fan park on match days. 

But yeah there's no reason to increase capacity etc for the next 5/6 seasons. 

[meregreen 1,410]

3 hours ago, Sulberto21 said:

Most match day revenue from the other clubs allegedly comes from the corporate market. Eventually we'd need to increase that side of the business to bring in more match day revenue. 

On a personal note I'd love it if we owned the land immediately surrounding the ground. So there'd be no houses and no road immediately in the vicinity of the ground. We could have made the outside areas of the ground like a fan park on match days. 

But yeah there's no reason to increase capacity etc for the next 5/6 seasons. 

We already have thousands of fans on a season ticket waiting list. There’s every reason to start expansion of the ground and it’s facilities now. Thankfully I believe our current owners to be pretty ambitious people, I do not think they will be waiting 5/6 seasons to get this club moving on all fronts, including ground improvements.

[Sulberto21 1,631]

27 minutes ago, meregreen said:

We already have thousands of fans on a season ticket waiting list. There’s every reason to start expansion of the ground and it’s facilities now. Thankfully I believe our current owners to be pretty ambitious people, I do not think they will be waiting 5/6 seasons to get this club moving on all fronts, including ground improvements.

We don't know when crowds will be allowed back and in what capacity. Secondly I think this is the first time we've had a waiting list for a season ticket. We don't know if it will last. Covid-19 has changed everything. People are not going to choose between baby formula and a ticket to a football game. The essentials are going to come first. So many people have lost jobs and businesses have folded. Disposable income is going to be less readily available.

We need to re-establish ourselves in the premier League before we start increasing capacity. 

[meregreen 1,410]

19 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said:

We don't know when crowds will be allowed back and in what capacity. Secondly I think this is the first time we've had a waiting list for a season ticket. We don't know if it will last. Covid-19 has changed everything. People are not going to choose between baby formula and a ticket to a football game. The essentials are going to come first. So many people have lost jobs and businesses have folded. Disposable income is going to be less readily available.

We need to re-establish ourselves in the premier League before we start increasing capacity. 

Nope sorry. I guess we’ll have to disagree on this one. With a Covid/Brexit recession on the cards, people with hard cash should be in the driving seat. Our owners are seriously monied people and will be able to drive a hard bargain with any potential building company. Ground improvements do not come underFFP rules. It’s no good having crowds rolling up in the future and not having the capacity to exploit that to the full. There was a time that VP could match most clubs with our ground, not just in capacity but also in facilities. We have been left behind by quite a few now. Let’s start closing that gap.

[KevinRichardsonsMoustache 1,411]

6 hours ago, meregreen said:

Ground improvements do not come underFFP rules

I did not know that: thanks for sharing. Changes the calculus somewhat 

[blunther 557]

1 hour ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said:

I did not know that: thanks for sharing. Changes the calculus somewhat 

We should sign some really expensive 'builders' to erect a few concession stands and maybe play a bit of football on their weekends off. 

[sharkyvilla 5,628]

21 hours ago, MrBlack said:

What is this? Genuine question... artists impression? Architects design? Fan photoshop effort?

Either way,  no to filled in corners from me. Putting all the obvious objectives aside, what stand do you even qualify as sitting in if you're in that second tier that extends the length of the corner? 

Just looks like a fan has stuck one of the ends from Old Trafford onto Villa Park to show what it might look like.

[thabucks 1,942]

The Spurs stadium showcases how you can have a semi wrap around upper tier whilst retaining the 4 separate stands identity. The upper Trinity could be continued similar to the below image. 

Imagine the North stand replaced with a single 17,000 single tier stand . 
 

I also feel that the Trinity frontage could with a few tweaks to pay homage to Aston Hall with the windows and decorative features though very low priority but it can be relatively easily achieved at not a huge outlay. And finally whilst I’m dreaming reimagining the old trinity Roof for the 21st century...  

 

In terms of corporate seating @ Citeh’s ground and various American arenas they have underground bunker suites, so a new north stand doesn’t need corporate sandwiched in the middle. The Stratford End has executive seating in the middle of the lower tier. I can also see the boxes of the trinity being converted to bigger lounge suites as they are the new vogue. The Emirates has recently done this as tastes shift... 

Edited August 14 by thabucks

[hippo 3,616]

15 hours ago, meregreen said:

We already have thousands of fans on a season ticket waiting list. There’s every reason to start expansion of the ground and it’s facilities now. Thankfully I believe our current owners to be pretty ambitious people, I do not think they will be waiting 5/6 seasons to get this club moving on all fronts, including ground improvements.

They've said pretty much the opposite. There aren't any redevelopment plans in the near future. Pretty sure Purslow said it at one of the forums.

[The Fun Factory 3,613]

1 hour ago, hippo said:

They've said pretty much the opposite. There aren't any redevelopment plans in the near future. Pretty sure Purslow said it at one of the forums.

I know. As much as I want it to happen I can't see it happening for a long time. The North Stand coud well still be standing by 2030. At that rate it could be listed.

[mikeyp102 4,557]

2 hours ago, thabucks said:

The Spurs stadium showcases how you can have a semi wrap around upper tier whilst retaining the 4 separate stands identity.

 

My semi wouldn’t wrap around an upper tier. Your Mrs  must be pleased 

[sidcow 12,345]

47 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said:

My semi wouldn’t wrap around an upper tier. Your Mrs  must be pleased 

[AvfcRigo82 6,014]

On 14/08/2020 at 16:45, The Fun Factory said:

I know. As much as I want it to happen I can't see it happening for a long time. The North Stand coud well still be standing by 2030. At that rate it could be listed.

I hope not or it moves into a great area of difficulty if that happens.

Hopefully by then it might be redeveloped?

[Stephen_Evans 246]

1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said:

I hope not or it moves into a great area of difficulty if that happens.

Hopefully by then it might be redeveloped?

Wouldn’t that be the perfect symbol of Birmingham planning policies over the last 50-60 years.  Approve the demolition of the old Trinity but forbid the demolition of the North!