Popular Post Jareth Posted June 28, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2022 Very disappointed. Wanted the rollercoaster. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Blimely, I wasn't expecting this info this early. I am sure the last update by Purslow was for late summer. I will look at all this carefully and digest. Exciting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: Can't believe people are moaning. Design choice on the outside and how it looks won't be confirmed yet..it's the plan and overall structure that's being decided. It looks excellent and will be at the level of other stands across the country and will bring in much more revenue. People have to find a negative don't they. I know right. 3 years ago we were competing with Derby and Blues, both of which barely exist as clubs now. We're so fortunate to have the owners we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Really happy, underlines NSWEs long term commitment to the club. Not that there was any doubt about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, sidcow said: I don't think it's moaning or negative to not want a 70s looking brown box bolted onto the end of the new stand. As I said I understand it's just provisional renders and hope to see something different but I'm getting big Chelmsley Wood Leisure Centre vibes from this. And I don't think plonking this right behind the stand is right, it should be well away from the stand so we can actually see it. I think you're way off on all of those points If you think those 2 buildings look alike then you can't be helped 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: I am sure it will look better in the flesh but yes it looks awfully leisure centre from the initial drawings. I had a vision in my head of an ultramodern stand .something like Selfridges . red brick on anything new never looks good. Has to keey in style with the rest of the ground. So can't have just one random ultra modern stand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveAV1 Posted June 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2022 Meanwhile in Small Heath….. The Tilton Road slept silent, The turnstiles full of rust The pitch was overgrown with weeds The day The Blues went bust. The last match, a cup tie They lost 13-2 And a crowd of only 28 Saw Alvchurch go through. 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Has to keey in style with the rest of the ground. So can't have just one random ultra modern stand Exactly, they design something akin to the alliance or spurs new stadium and they don't get planning permission Its an extension not a new build, they can't just do whatever they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, villa4europe said: Exactly, they design something akin to the alliance or spurs new stadium and they don't get planning permission Its an extension not a new build, they can't just do whatever they want Also we have an old aesthetic to Villa Park which other clubs don't have with their boring modern looking stadiums. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, CVByrne said: Also we have an old aesthetic to Villa Park which other clubs don't have with their boring modern looking stadiums. And I really hope we keep that, with a modern touch. The early sketches seem to indicate we will, and that’s reassuring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I think you're way off on all of those points If you think those 2 buildings look alike then you can't be helped I said vibes, not identikit. On both buildings I'm seeing big expanses of plain red brick wall. I'm delighted and grateful we're getting a massive upgrade but I'm not going all happy clappy and accepting any old shit. I'll say it again I know it's just preliminary and will likely change but I don't want to see a big expanse of plain red brick walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, sidcow said: Those indicative pictures look horrendous. Looks like a 1970's council leisure centre has been built on the back of it. I'm concerned. Looks like they've dropped the Hotel idea then. The hotel idea comes around every few years. Really don't see a market for it. Sketches look good imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted June 28, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Here are a few more snippets of information, from the brochure and from @OutByEaster? . Firstly, the club say We aim to improve: Stadium capacity – current seated capacity increase to 50,000+ seats, adding approximately 7,400 additional seats General facilities – more space for socialising and enhanced hospitality packages. Fan experience–atmosphere is viewed as the most important aspect of a match day. Improvements will include enhanced views from the stand, dedicated entrances for home and away fans, and the retention of the four distinct stands (a nod to our heritage) Seating & Accessibility – there will be considerable changes to make both stands more accessible with an uplift of disabled seating Connectivity – 61% of fans said Wi-Fi connectivity and mobile signal was very poor, significant enhancements to Wi-Fi will be made and giant screens installed Visual impact–the architecture will ensure that impact on surrounding areas is minimised while simultaneously maintaining the identity and heritage of Villa Park And Our phase one plans include: Better segregation of pedestrians and vehicles providing a safer and improved access into the northern part of Villa Park for those arriving by public transport Prioritising pedestrians around the newly transformed Villa Way Increasing the amount of parking with 300 spaces in the new North Stand car park 26 dedicated blue badge bays, with level access to the stadium Working with private land owners to identify off-site parking locations to tackle pressure of anti-social parking in local streets More fans currently use Aston Station(65%) compared to Witton Station(35%), so we will be looking at how to better manage usage, queuing, and access to train services Encouraging greater use of sustainable travel–walking, cycling, and public transport Continuing to work collaboratively with key partners including local bus and rail operators and Transport for West Midlands The club would like us to have our say on all this, so here's how: Here are a few more images from the brochure, which may be of interest And finally some stuff from yesterdays SCG which may answer one or two queries raised Timeline (provisional, if all goes according to plan): Planning permission will go in in August The Brookvale academy site will be complete by July of 2023 - the work there has started already The Academy building will be demolished in July/Aug 2023, and the current North Stand will be demolished in October 2023, followed by the ticket office. Phase 1 complete by the start of the 2025/26 season. The new North stand will hold 13,200 with just over 2,000 of those being hospitality. Both the Trinity and new North Stand will be getting open balcony style hospitality areas in the middle of them. As per the image above, the new stand will have two tiers and the seating is very much like the seating in the Holte . Inside the stand will be four levels (see pic above), with the lower concourse being triple height, with glass at the front and back to give the concourses plenty of natural light. The Trinity will be extended around so that the middle tier meets the new stand, but not the top tier (which is to protect residents' light on Nelson Road). This wrap round will add a few hundred seats to the Trinity capacity. The players tunnel will move to the corner of the ground between North and Trinity, with new player facilities in the new North Stand. Capacity while the North stand is demolished and rebuilt will be reduced to around 35k for that 18 month period. How the club manages ticketing during that time will need quite a bit of thought. On the the Box Park "Villa live" - it will have restaurants, bars and a big room in the middle that will also be used for gigs - for gigs it will be able to hold 2,800 people. The club are paving Witton Lane from the traffic island up to the Doug Ellis stand and down also Station road, so that on match days there is no traffic and it will feel like a public square - there will be a subway at the end of station road linking the Brookvale academy as a match day facility. Edited June 28, 2022 by blandy typos 17 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 For me the must encouraging part of these long term projects are that it means our owners are around for the considerable future. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, villarule123 said: Is the absence of Witton Lane on the drawings an indication that another new stand might be the end game to get us up to 60k? I believe so. Holte and Trinity would be very hard to expand further so DE would be the only other option which is currently constrained by the road and nearby properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, blandy said: Here are a few more snippets of information, from the brochure and from @OutByEaster? . Firstly, the club say We aim to improve: Stadium capacity–current seated capacity increase to 50,000+ seats, adding approximately 7,400 additional seats General facilities–more space for socialising and enhanced hospitality packages. Fan experience–atmosphere is viewed as the most important aspect of a match day. Improvements will include enhanced views from the stand, dedicated entrances for home and away fans, and the retention of the four distinct stands (a nod to our heritage) Seating&Accessibility–there will be considerable changes to make both stands more accessible with an uplift of disabled seating Connectivity–61% of fans said Wi-Fi connectivity and mobile signal was very poor, significant enhancements to Wi-Fi will be made and giant screens installed Visual impact–the architecture will ensure that impact on surrounding areas is minimised while simultaneously maintaining the identity and heritage of Villa Park And Our phase one plans include: Better segregation of pedestrians and vehicles providing a safer an dimproved access into the northern part of Villa Park for those arriving by public transport Prioritising pedestrians around the newly transformed Villa Way Increasing the amount of parking with 300 spaces in the new North Stand car park 26 dedicated blue badge bays, with level access to the stadium Working with private land owners to identify off-site parking locations to tackle pressure of anti-social parking in local streets More fans currently use Aston Station(65%) compared to Witton Station(35%), so we will be looking at how to better manage usage, queuing, and access to train services Encouraging greater use of sustainable travel–walking, cycling, and public transport Continuing to work collaboratively with key partners including local bus and rail operators and Transport for West Midlands The club would like us to have our say on all this, so here's how: Here are a few more images from the brochure, which may be of interest And finally some stuff from yesterdays SCG which may answer one or two queries raised Timeline (provisional, if all goes according to plan): Planning permission will go in in August The Brookvale academy site will be complete by July of 2023 - the work there has started already The Academy building will be demolished in July/Aug 2023, and the current North Stand will be demolished in October 2023, followed by the ticket office. Phase 1 complete by the start of the 2025/26 season. The new North stand will hold 13,200 with just over 2,000 of those being hospitality. Both the Trinity and new North Stand will be getting open balcony style hospitality areas in the middle of them. That would not result in 50,000 then, more like 48K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: That would not result in 50,000 then, more like 48K. Don’t we currently hold 42,642 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2022 That Boxpark style room looks frickin ace. They're going to generate so much more revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, sidcow said: On both buildings I'm seeing big expanses of plain red brick wall. Those don't look like massive plain red brick walls to me. Obviously hard to tell from the limited images but to me it looks like a decent amount of both the stand and Villa Live are glass/transparent, and even where there are large brick sections these are broken up by detailing or more windows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hippo Posted June 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2022 06/06/2018 - villa close to administration. Now we have a squad to die for - and a new multi million £ stand in the pipeline. Be thankful folks. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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