Zatman Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Genuinely think Lerner might have sold us to a used car salesman chancing his arm. " He meant well" " He trusted the wrong people" "Nice guy just naive" The bloke is an absolute conman who took us to the brink to get his hands on that TV money and sell on value. Poisonous short arse. People praised Hollis at the time as some Villa hero to sell to this emoji buffoon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Greenfly said: Isn't this essentially what's going on over at SHA? We were so lucky whatever he was up to didn't pan out. How different things could've turned out, eh? Had we beaten Fulham he would probably have tried to flog Villa as a premier league club and cashed in with a small profit. Had Wes and Naseef not bought us we would have gone into administration, and could well possibly be in League One at the moment. A complete chancer and I am surprised that an experienced businessman in Steve Hollis fell for it at the time. It smelt dodgy from day one. Xia just chucked the parachute payments at players and hoped for the best. It was total cringe when he turned up at the playoffs in 2019. Edited January 21, 2021 by The Fun Factory 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: People praised Hollis at the time as some Villa hero to sell to this emoji buffoon At the time, "Lerner Out" was all that mattered. Whoever came in was pretty much irrelevant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, The Fun Factory said: Had we beaten Fulham he would probably have tried to flog Villa as a premier league club and cash in with a small profit. I'm not sure he would have. Premier League clubs can be seen as proper golden geese by some people. It's where all the real money is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 We'd have done a West Brom and spent £3.56 and gone down with £90m and parachute money and a load of money gone missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 He CaN't Be AnY WoRsE tHaN lErNeR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted January 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2021 "suspected defection" eh? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Meh he probably thought he could buy a Premier league club despite having no money. That's what Hicks and Gillette did with pool (borrowed every penny from RBS of all places) and famously the glazers (took on a shit load of debt to buy the club then just put the debt on the club) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Zatman said: People praised Hollis at the time as some Villa hero to sell to this emoji buffoon God, people on here loved that guy. Pretty sure there were one or two who wanted him to get a boardroom role, and I seem to remember one person who wanted to make him a DoF or something, although that might be my memory playing tricks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I would love to know what checks we made before selling to him. Is it really that easy to buy such an organisation? Show a bit of money a few bankers notes saying you have X amount of money etc and that's it. Surely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 19 hours ago, rodders0223 said: We'd have done a West Brom and spent £3.56 and gone down with £90m and parachute money and a load of money gone missing Not sure, wasn't there a report that came out a few weeks after saying we were confident of signing likes of Fellani and Javier Hernandez if we'd been promoted although of course those two wouldn't have done much given Hernandez barely scored a goal at West Ham. We would've spent a bit e.g. converting Snodgrass loan to permanent but given who the manager was it would've just been on old players so no long term planning at all and we we wouldn't be progressing like we are now. First play off final was a horrible watch but made much worse by how bad things were over the next two months, we could've easily gone into the next championship season with a skeleton squad if we didn't have a quick takeover and could've easily gone down given every decent player was up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Not sure, wasn't there a report that came out a few weeks after saying we were confident of signing likes of Fellani and Javier Hernandez if we'd been promoted although of course those two wouldn't have done much given Hernandez barely scored a goal at West Ham. We would've spent a bit e.g. converting Snodgrass loan to permanent but given who the manager was it would've just been on old players so no long term planning at all and we we wouldn't be progressing like we are now. First play off final was a horrible watch but made much worse by how bad things were over the next two months, we could've easily gone into the next championship season with a skeleton squad if we didn't have a quick takeover and could've easily gone down given every decent player was up for sale. Agree with this; I feel like people have memory-holed how deep in the shit we were. We were little more than hours from being wound up at one point IIRC. I also think (and this is not going to be a popular opinion) that the dire situation had knock-on effects into the next season, and is part of the explanation we started so poorly. Yes, we had got better players by then, and no I'm not just excusing Bruce's performances, but a chaotic summer is usually not a platform from which to build a good start to the season*. *This point just makes the job that Moyes has done this season all the more impressive IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) The man is a charlatan and we are incredibly lucky that things worked out favourably for us. I wasn’t on VT at the time but was anyone a little bit sceptical from the get go? I’ll admit I thought the moron was the second coming. Edited January 22, 2021 by SuperTed Punctuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, SuperTed said: The man is a charlatan and we are incredibly lucky that things worked out favourably for us. I wasn’t on VT at the time but was anyone a little bit sceptical from the get go? I’ll admit I thought the moron was the second coming. Yeah if I remember rightly there were a few suspicious comments here and there, questioning Xia’s credibility. I wasn’t one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, SuperTed said: The man is a charlatan and we are incredibly lucky that things worked out favourably for us. I wasn’t on VT at the time but was anyone a little bit sceptical from the get go? I’ll admit I thought the moron was the second coming. @Demitri_C still has a Xia bumlick as his sig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 21/01/2021 at 17:05, Zatman said: People praised Hollis at the time as some Villa hero to sell to this emoji buffoon Hollis a uttter knob jockey that almost destroyed us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, rjw63 said: @Demitri_C still has a Xia bumlick as his sig You **** joking do i? Ergh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 @rjw63 better? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, SuperTed said: The man is a charlatan and we are incredibly lucky that things worked out favourably for us. I wasn’t on VT at the time but was anyone a little bit sceptical from the get go? I’ll admit I thought the moron was the second coming. I think a majority were delighted, cant remember many being overly sceptical of him, and not long after he bought us didnt he buy some Hollywood movie company (or try too) which sort of proved he had some cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 There really wasn't any evidence to be skeptical of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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