Popular Post TheStagMan Posted August 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vancvillan said: The only thread I every started and he nearly destroyed the club. This is why I hardly ever post. Could you start a thread about Birmingham City? 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Was he actually a con-man, or could he just not move his money from China due to their laws and was effectively skint? I mean he was a bad owner, but you guys are making it out like he's a snake oil salesman. I think he greatly exaggerated his wealth and the small bit of money he did have he couldn't get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 9, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, TRO said: Just a Fraud..... like the Dave Clark 5....................."glad its all over" Yeah, let's face it after the Fulham Play Off defeat we were left in Bit's and Pieces because of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 9, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, useless said: So now we're owned by just two billionaires, rather than three. No, we're still just owned by 2 Billionaire's like we were last week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 9, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2019 I'll volunteer to shin up the flag pole on the top of the Witton Lane Stand and remove that bloody Chinese flag if they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, Vancvillan said: The only thread I every started and he nearly destroyed the club. It is an impressive ratio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 9, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Was he actually a con-man, or could he just not move his money from China due to their laws and was effectively skint? I mean he was a bad owner, but you guys are making it out like he's a snake oil salesman. Wolves owners have had absolutely no problem with getting their money out of China, Tony had no money, he borrowed to buy the club and gambled the parachute payments on promotion, but we didn't and he left the club on the brink of extinction. Edited August 9, 2019 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) A footnote in the history of Aston Villa FC. Onwards and upwards. Edited August 9, 2019 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Jimzk5 said: Losing that play off final was in reality what saved our club. Amen to that brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Good riddance. Hope he gets a lifetime ban from VP. May he never be associated with football ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoony Posted August 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2019 looking forward to his first badly written sly dig tweet like some sort of drunk dyslexic fortune cookie. “People in snakes have no chance of knowing and grateful of actions is personal sacrifice. Many I have tried and with great success not be! UTV” 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 9, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Was he actually a con-man, or could he just not move his money from China due to their laws and was effectively skint? I mean he was a bad owner, but you guys are making it out like he's a snake oil salesman. I suspect he is a fairly wealthy guy, but not on the level he was portrayed to be, and certainly not rich in the world of football club owners, who had some connections in the Chinese government and knew some other wealthy people. He gambled the club on us being successful and when that didn't happen coupled to the currency issues, he found himself in trouble and not as popular with people in right places as he thought. Whereas, for instance, Wolves ownership is pretty clear and they haven't had much trouble with cash liquidity... His entire background is questionable - exactly 'who' he is, where he actually got what wealth he has, how rich he actually is, how involved in the business he's associated with he is, etc etc, is all a little vague or uncertain. He certainly didn't strike me as a rich man when we saw him. I joke about his suits but there's a truth there too - a man as rich as he supposedly is doesn't wear a suit as badly fitted as he does. And not in the weird American cut of suits either, he just wore stuff that didn't fit him. A billionaire isn't dressing worse than a junkie going to court. There's Russian oligarchs, the kind that went from nobodies to billionaires because they knew the right people at the right time and knew the right elbows to twist that have more clarity about their wealth than Xia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Was he actually a con-man, or could he just not move his money from China due to their laws and was effectively skint? I mean he was a bad owner, but you guys are making it out like he's a snake oil salesman. If there was truth in his inability to move cash, and he actually was a proper businessman, he could have found a way to get money in this country in any number of ways (not necessarily directly getting the money over - he could have borrowed on his Chinese money). He was a fraud. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Keyblade said: Was he actually a con-man, or could he just not move his money from China due to their laws and was effectively skint? I mean he was a bad owner, but you guys are making it out like he's a snake oil salesman. Given he couldn’t afford the £30m he had to pay to Lerner when we got promoted and the debt fell to the club to pay in exchange for his remaining shares. I was would say yes, he was a massive **** fraud. Edited August 9, 2019 by jim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 hours ago, rodders0223 said: So he couldn't come up with the £30m Fit and proper persons test...but how did Lerner approve this sale? Did he just not care about us at all? Didnt Hollis have permission to approve and Villa fans made Hollis out to be some sort of genius. Shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Spoony said: looking forward to his first badly written sly dig tweet like some sort of drunk dyslexic fortune cookie. “People in snakes have no chance of knowing and grateful of actions is personal sacrifice. Many I have tried and with great success not be! UTV” Yeah but with Xia its in emoji form 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Xela said: Would be interesting to know the full story of his time here. Even his company. Recon Group, does anyone know what they do or actually exist?! I recall that someone did some digging and found most of the companies he owned didn't actually do anything ...they found 2 active companies .... The loss making lotus foods Recon - was actually a small cabling company. Teemax - I seem to recall was the big company - it was never clear because early on he reckoned he sold it for £500m ....then later it got out that he still owned some shares in it... A travesty that he was ever in charge - if Naz and Eden's hadn't stepped in heaven knows where would be now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Didnt Hollis have permission to approve and Villa fans made Hollis out to be some sort of genius. Shocking I assume it was a big part of why King and Bernstein stepped down. I guess we will never know exactly what the **** was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 46 minutes ago, hippo said: I recall that someone did some digging and found most of the companies he owned didn't actually do anything ...they found 2 active companies .... The loss making lotus foods Recon - was actually a small cabling company. Teemax - I seem to recall was the big company - it was never clear because early on he reckoned he sold it for £500m ....then later it got out that he still owned some shares in it... A travesty that he was ever in charge - if Naz and Eden's hadn't stepped in heaven knows where would be now. They can all dress it up how they like......He was a fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Couldn't pay Lerner the £30m for promotion apparently so NSWE had to bail him out, Hence his removal the 30m mopped up his remaining shares. Adios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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