Frobisher Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, DCJonah said: How will anything posted on here help? Well, it seems like they think they're helping us by sharing all their bad experiences through the years. I don't necessarily think it's helpful, but other fans do, so fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooter Posted July 6, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Frobisher said: Mate, we're drowning, proferred hand or not. Unless you've got a spare £100 million, o the other hand, then I take it all back! As I've said in another post I'm probably being oversensitive. I guess it's just hard to take going from competing for promotion, to being on the verge of being out of business, and then having guys saying "it's going to get worse and worse and worse". Try "only five/six/seven/eight years ago they were Champions league semi-finalists". I hear you. But the only way we've ever shifted the bastards that owned us was eventually by some occasionally innovative positive action, largely organised online. One lot in particular were very sensitive to negative PR. Maybe Xia is. You might want to find out who owns the advertising hoardings bordering the ground for instance, because Villa won't. We had a very resourceful group of fellas crowdfunded for this... https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2016%2F02%2F15%2F19%2F313DEF9F00000578-0-image-a-65_1455563317064.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Farticle-3448294%2FLeeds-fans-project-messages-slamming-Massimo-Cellino-Elland-Road-stadium-bid-unwanted-owner-out.html&docid=QoR5WJCsbDPGQM&tbnid=HQKWIXQhJ9HZ0M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjtkpiPt4vcAhXLAsAKHRO3BnkQMwg8KAQwBA..i&w=636&h=382&bih=837&biw=1670&q=cellino out&ved=0ahUKEwjtkpiPt4vcAhXLAsAKHRO3BnkQMwg8KAQwBA&iact=mrc&uact=8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I think the statement is preparing us for some major sales next week. I expect the transfer of Grealish to Tottenham to be announced on Monday. Or Tuesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Londonastonvilla said: I think the statement is preparing us for some major sales next week. I expect the transfer of Grealish to Tottenham to be announced on Monday. Or Tuesday Tuesday you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jareth said: And it makes no sense because it's generally in the space between 'really bad' and 'really good' call it the 'grey space' if it helps. Funny how the grey space results in always defending and never criticising. Almost as if using the phrase 'they grey' space is just a bullshit way to come across and balanced and reasoned when posts and opinions do neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, DCJonah said: Funny how the grey space results in always defending and never criticising. Almost as if using the phrase 'they grey' space is just a bullshit way to come across and balanced and reasoned when posts and opinions do neither. the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, TRO said: Well its not static......its dynamic. Its either getting worse or better......I'm not sure which. for the last 2 years, i thought we was getting better, what a fool i have been. You and me both Tro. You and me both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, Jareth said: the Thanks. I'll take that as you aren't able to disagree. Thanks for being reasoned and balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Funny how the grey space results in always defending and never criticising. Almost as if using the phrase 'they grey' space is just a bullshit way to come across and balanced and reasoned when posts and opinions do neither. Im not convinced we are doomed and will go bankrupt. Not enough information for me to make that conclusion. Am I defending him or in the grey area? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, DCJonah said: Thanks. I'll take that as you aren't able to disagree. Thanks for being reasoned and balanced. Son I'm dissappoint - where is the clever analogy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, NoelVilla said: Im not convinced we are doomed and will go bankrupt. Not enough information for me to make that conclusion. Am I defending him or in the grey area? Neither. You didn't defend him hence my post was aimed at those that did. Hope that clears it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, Jareth said: Son I'm dissappoint - where is the clever analogy? You constantly prove my analogy in nearly every post on the Xia thread. Nothing else is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Neither. You didn't defend him hence my post was aimed at those that did. Hope that clears it up. You're not very clear with that but I leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, DCJonah said: You constantly prove my analogy in nearly every post on the Xia thread. Nothing else is needed. But which one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I don't know how to read through the lines of that letter. I honestly don't. If someone could break it down for me that'd be appreciated, because all I really took from it is that he's not looking to sell, he's backing Bruce and we're selling Grealish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 minute ago, NoelVilla said: You're not very clear with that but I leave it there. What you said wasn't a defence of him. My post was not in reference to you or posts like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 minute ago, A'Villan said: I don't know how to read through the lines of that letter. I honestly don't. If someone could break it down for me that'd be appreciated, because all I really took from it is that he's not looking to sell, he's backing Bruce and we're selling Grealish. That's pretty much it. The hattrick of terrible news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, DCJonah said: What you said wasn't a defence of him. My post was not in reference to you or posts like that. But which analogy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, Jareth said: But which analogy? I'm bored. I'll leave it there with you before you turn nasty again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, DCJonah said: What will it take for you not to defend him? How am I defending him? I’m stating a fairly blatant fact. He needn’t have bothered posting the open letter, because, as shown in this thread, many fans have already made their minds up and will just take it as more lies, because of the things we cannot deny (missed tax bill, sacked CEO etc) and because of what the oh-so-truthful media have told us (we’re going into administration). Do I believe everything Tony says? No. Do I believe everything the media says? No. Am I going to jump on Villatalk to insult Tony after every new revelation that comes from the club. No, because I’m sure there’s more to it than ‘Tony - bad. Everyone else - good’. I personally think the letter is helpful in that it explains a few things at least (or explains what Tony’s view is, anyway), such as Bruce is staying, Xia isn’t selling up, we are bank loan free (but the wording seems purposefully specific), the EFL have no issues with Round & Wyness going, Xia is acting CEO and not Ho and loans have been converted to equity. Sorry if me choosing to interpret an open letter with an open mind, whether I conclude good or bad points, doesn’t fit your image of all Villa fans having the pitchforks out at every opportunity. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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