JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 minute ago, TheStagMan said: So, I don't recall any other club buyout ever being subjected to this level of scrutiny from the press. Why are we so deserving? Is it because finally something good is coming our way and they won't be able to ridicule us for much longer? Words removed the lot of them! Proper seems certain people in the game don't like us. lol. It's a Kalinic all over isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: So, I don't recall any other club buyout ever being subjected to this level of scrutiny from the press. Why are we so deserving? Is it because finally something good is coming our way and they won't be able to ridicule us for much longer? Words removed the lot of them! Clickbait, it's pretty quiet on the footballing front at the moment I think, beside the LVG/Mourinho switch so they have to fill up the columns somehow. I have very grim view of the so-called "journalists", especially in the british media, and it's easy to beat someone who's already down. From what I've gathered, there's also a LOT of regional politics between London/Manchester/Liverpool vs. rest of the England, so that probably plays the part in this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted May 23, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2016 I would be disappointed if journalists weren't digging into this. End of the season, Villa have a disastrous campaign, and note they're being sold to a Chinese buyer, which is unusual, who nobody knows anything about, which immediately should have inquiring minds want to get digging. There's nothing special about us that's making journalists want to look deeper in this. It's the intrigue of what of actually happening. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I'm not certain about this, but since Tony Xia has made quite a big deal about knowing the Chinese President and suggested that he hopes one day he will even make a visit to the club, if having prompted those links in the press here, he then was found out to be a fraudster and not to have the funding in place for the purchase, then surely that could prove to be a very bad career move given how things are done in China. I'm not certain that crossing the president of China would be a good move for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Chindie said: I would be disappointed if journalists weren't digging into this. End of the season, Villa have a disastrous campaign, and note they're being sold to a Chinese buyer, which is unusual, who nobody knows anything about, which immediately should have inquiring minds want to get digging. There's nothing special about us that's making journalists want to look deeper in this. It's the intrigue of what of actually happening. An investigative journalist with the Daily Mail did "dig" and came out with the answers to the questions that were today, again, asked in the Telegraph. I've no problem with digging. The click bait sensationalism is certainly not to the benefit of Aston Villa Football Club however. In fact it is detrimental to our image moving forward. You raised an interesting point though. Is Chinese ownership in football abroad "unusual". Perhaps our new learned friend can answer that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 23, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: An investigative journalist with the Daily Mail did "dig" and came out with the answers to the questions that were today, again, asked in the Telegraph. I've no problem with digging. The click bait sensationalism is certainly not to the benefit of Aston Villa Football Club however. In fact it is detrimental to our image moving forward. You raised an interesting point though. Is Chinese ownership in football abroad "unusual". Perhaps our new learned friend can answer that. It's still not some conspiracy against Villa 'because they don't like us'. It's a story that they can fill pages with. Doesn't matter that the questions were answered elsewhere a day before, they will still run the story. As for Chinese investment... I'm thinking more narrow than just 'abroad'. UK Chinese investment isn't a big deal, and we're the first even vaguely high profile name that has had that investment seemingly, so the story is interesting. Edited May 23, 2016 by Chindie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Chindie said: It's still not some conspiracy against Villa 'because they don't like us'. It's a story that they can fill pages with. Doesn't matter that the questions were answered elsewhere a day before, they will still run the story. As for Chinese investment... I'm thinking more narrow than just 'abroad'. UK Chinese investment isn't a big deal, and we're the first even vaguely high profile name that has had that investment seemingly, so the story is interesting. Cool. I don't think there is a conspiracy by the way and I appreciate they will run the story regardless. I do think it's potentially damaging to our reputation if they persist without doing the most basic research before running these stories. At the same time I hope actual real life journalists continue to ask the questions we want the answers to. Dr T doesn't seem to mind answering them. Edited May 23, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccfcman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Chindie said: I would be disappointed if journalists weren't digging into this. End of the season, Villa have a disastrous campaign, and note they're being sold to a Chinese buyer, which is unusual, who nobody knows anything about, which immediately should have inquiring minds want to get digging. There's nothing special about us that's making journalists want to look deeper in this. It's the intrigue of what of actually happening. This. To further your point, it is also the silly season with a lull before the Euros. Aside from lying about transfers, LVG/Mourinho, they've actually got very little to go on at the moment. Digging is good, it's better we find turds now than later but I do of course hope and expect this to be a pretty standard take over. That it is Chinese I think (no pun intended) adds some spice to things. More of the unknown and very easy to be written about in a certain fashion. The Daily Heil and other bird cage lining rags won't actually come up with much rather than the salacious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 3 hours ago, Jareth said: Chin up Racist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Cool. I don't think there is a conspiracy by the way and I appreciate they will run the story regardless. I do think it's potentially damaging to our reputation if they persist without doing the most basic research before running these stories. At the same time I hope actual real life journalists continue to ask the questions we want the answers to. Dr T doesn't seem to mind answering them. You've mentioned things being 'damaging to our reputation' or variants thereof a couple of times now. Obviously it isn't the media's job to protect our reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: You've mentioned things being 'damaging to our reputation' or variants thereof a couple of times now. Obviously it isn't the media's job to protect our reputation. I didn't say it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Then I don't know why you're mentioning it? I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's coming across like you do think it's something they should consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Just now, HanoiVillan said: Then I don't know why you're mentioning it? I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's coming across like you do think it's something they should consider. Because it's unnecessary when the questions posed have already been dealt with, it's damaging to our reputation (IMO) and our reputation is important to me? I didn't say there was anything I could do about it nor do I think it is that our reputation is their responsibility. I'm expressing an opinion. I don't really understand what you're getting at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 23, 2016 Moderator Share Posted May 23, 2016 I don't think it's of any consequence to our reputation. If it's true, then the truth would be the damaging thing. If it's not true then it will add to the long list of stuff the media have been wrong about and only damage the paper's reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 What I am slightly concerned is that Hollis may think Dr Tony is what he says he is but in a country riddled with corruption and little transparency it could be fairly easy to fool someone who is out of town. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: What I am slightly concerned is that Hollis may think Dr Tony is what he says he is but in a country riddled with corruption and little transparency it could be fairly easy to fool someone who is out of town. How easy could it really be to pull off a con, this high profile in 2016 though? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: What I am slightly concerned is that Hollis may think Dr Tony is what he says he is but in a country riddled with corruption and little transparency it could be fairly easy to fool someone who is out of town. I think the longer the lack of knowledge continues the more dodgy it seems. Whether it is Villa fan cynicism or media negativity that is causing that opinion I dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westholmevillan Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The media will leave us alone when Mourinho goes to manure imo! At the moment there is very little to write about in the football world. Thats why we are currently centre stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I just hope this isn't another (and final) error of judgement carried out by naive Randy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Pretty sure we are all panicking about this for nothing, but phony con men have bought sports clubs in the past. http://www.espn.co.uk/nhl/story/_/id/13112769/john-spano-hustler-once-tried-buy-new-york-islanders-gets-10-years saw this a few years back on ESPN 30 for 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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