cbr600rr Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 still to many losers in the squad, we all know who they are, rdm hands are tied as no one will take them & i dont blame any manager not touching them the barge pole tbh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 We won't be relegated this season! Pointless thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 He's having a go at Holloway. I'm afraid less talk and more action Tony. You should not respond in words 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 23 minutes ago, dounavilla said: We won't be relegated this season! Pointless thread. This thread is more relevant than the promotion thread at the minute. Last years team was one of the worst teams to have ever appeared in any proffesional league in England! Its the same squad and the additions of Elphick, Tshibola and Gollini have done nothing at all to change that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) I voted 17-20th in the optimism gauge thread. My logic relies more on the mental side. On paper many of you are right, we should be comfortably mid-table. However, we're VERY weak mentally, and a bad start can get the ball rolling in the wrong direction very easily with the fans turning against our squad made of the same shameful players as last season. We need to get more new blood in. Even if they're no better than the old ones. More changes are needed. Edited August 1, 2016 by AVTuco 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2016 Bookies think we're 3rd favourite to win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Jareth said: Bookies think we're 3rd favourite to win the league. Hopefully they're right. I don't want to preach failure, but I'm not happy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jareth said: Bookies think we're 3rd favourite to win the league. they also had Leicester 5000/1 to win the league last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 no chance we are going down. This thread will be as redundant as the transfer thread in no time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 minute ago, chrisvilla4 said: no chance we are going down. This thread will be as redundant as the transfer thread in no time So nothing for weeks and then a flurry of activity shortly before the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemunster Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 hours ago, AVTuco said: I voted 17-20th in the optimism gauge thread. My logic relies more on the mental side. On paper many of you are right, we should be comfortably mid-table. However, we're VERY weak mentally, and a bad start can get the ball rolling in the wrong direction very easily with the fans turning against our squad made of the same shameful players as last season. We need to get more new blood in. Even if they're no better than the old ones. More changes are needed. AVT, I am in complete agreement with you. My claret and blue rose tinted glasses self combusted after half a dozen games last season, and although I would like to think we might make the play offs, with the turgid shit "bomb squad" players still here, I'm afraid I cannot see it. Hope I'm wrong, but doubt it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, eddiemunster said: AVT, I am in complete agreement with you. My claret and blue rose tinted glasses self combusted after half a dozen games last season, and although I would like to think we might make the play offs, with the turgid shit "bomb squad" players still here, I'm afraid I cannot see it. Hope I'm wrong, but doubt it. Except of course things MIGHT change dramatically between now and the end of the window. In that lies hope ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemunster Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Hope, yes terrytini we can all hope....and if its your bag, you can pray too! As I said, Hope I'm wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Jareth said: Bookies think we're 3rd favourite to win the league. 3rd favourite eh ? We've replaced 3 players. Last season we won 3 games, scored 27 goals. The two sides relegated with us won 9 each, scoring 39 and 44 goals. Newcastle 20 points away from us. The best 6 sides from the Championship that FAILED to get promoted were Brighton, 24 Wins, 72 goals, Derby, 21 Wins, 66 goals, Sheff Wed, 19 Wins, 66 goals, Ipswich, 18 Wins, 53 goals, Cardiff, 17 Wins, 56 Goals, and Brentford, 19 Wins, and 72 goals. So the bookies, and anyone else who expects us to get promoted as things stand, is expecting us to turn 3 Wins and 27 goals into something like 24 Wins and 60/70 goals ? I'll have some of what they are taking !! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2016 Just now, terrytini said: 3rd favourite eh ? We've replaced 3 players. Last season we won 3 games, scored 27 goals. The two sides relegated with us won 9 each, scoring 39 and 44 goals. Newcastle 20 points away from us. The best 6 sides from the Championship that FAILED to get promoted were Brighton, 24 Wins, 72 goals, Derby, 21 Wins, 66 goals, Sheff Wed, 19 Wins, 66 goals, Ipswich, 18 Wins, 53 goals, Cardiff, 17 Wins, 56 Goals, and Brentford, 19 Wins, and 72 goals. So the bookies, and anyone else who expects us to get promoted as things stand, is expecting us to turn 3 Wins and 27 goals into something like 24 Wins and 60/70 goals ? I'll have some of what they are taking !! Well that's the good thing about bookmakers, you can take their odds and make yourself a very rich man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemunster Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Two please terry, and keep them coming!!!! Edited August 1, 2016 by eddiemunster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Jareth said: Well that's the good thing about bookmakers, you can take their odds and make yourself a very rich man. The reason we are third favourite is because of the money placed on us, as always with bookies. The are not, and never have been, assessors of quality. But I know you knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, terrytini said: 3rd favourite eh ? We've replaced 3 players. Last season we won 3 games, scored 27 goals. The two sides relegated with us won 9 each, scoring 39 and 44 goals. Newcastle 20 points away from us. The best 6 sides from the Championship that FAILED to get promoted were Brighton, 24 Wins, 72 goals, Derby, 21 Wins, 66 goals, Sheff Wed, 19 Wins, 66 goals, Ipswich, 18 Wins, 53 goals, Cardiff, 17 Wins, 56 Goals, and Brentford, 19 Wins, and 72 goals. So the bookies, and anyone else who expects us to get promoted as things stand, is expecting us to turn 3 Wins and 27 goals into something like 24 Wins and 60/70 goals ? I'll have some of what they are taking !! 2 hours ago, Zatman said: they also had Leicester 5000/1 to win the league last season The Leicester team which almost got relegated, won the league with pretty much the same team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, terrytini said: The reason we are third favourite is because of the money placed on us, as always with bookies. The are not, and never have been, assessors of quality. But I know you knew that. Gives me hope they know something about how shit the championship is that they have us third. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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