a m ole Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, ender4 said: Nope, never have. But my point wasn't that i expect them to be top at the end, but the points gap will get more and more important as the season goes on, and i'm hoping to start closing that gap ever so slightly during September. Newcastle 4 points ahead is the line i'm looking at. fair enough. Obviously we need to start winning games, and the sooner the better. I think it was to be expected we might start slower, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: fair enough. Obviously we need to start winning games, and the sooner the better. I think it was to be expected we might start slower, though. yeah, i agree. I'm going to keep tracking during the season until we're either promoted or can't be promoted anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holtern8 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 We ain't going to do shit with that keeper. He's worse than bloody Guzan and that bald word removed got us relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 30 minutes ago, Holtern8 said: We ain't going to do shit with that keeper. He's worse than bloody Guzan and that bald word removed got us relegated. Guzan clearly contributed but come on, he hardly got us relegated on his own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpt666 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mantis said: Guzan clearly contributed but come on, he hardly got us relegated on his own. The way I see it is we still got bunn and steer and they ain't that bad so the young lad gollini better improve or he is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I was trying to remember back to the last time we were at this level 87-88 because I sort of remember a shitty start under Graham Taylor. Taylor had inherited a similar situation with a Villa squad with low morale and bought in players to do a ob at that level, Steve Sims, Kevin Gage, David Hunt and Mark Lillis are names I remember. Dug out my Villa Complete Record to see how it really went: Well after 5 games we had the same amount of points as we do now: 5 Ipswich 1-1, Blues 0-2, Hull 1-2, Man City 1-1, Leicester 2-0 We followed that by Boro 0-1, Barnsley 0-0 before beating West Brom 2-0 We finished 2nd but the skin of our teeth mind but we did it. I expect a similar up and down season. At the moment I am not concerned. New Team and management team need to bed in and click. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 I can't see us being promoted this year. Far too much of a turn around from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Problem is.. we have 3 new teams drop down next season from the premier league with a shitload of money to spend and already better squads. If we dont come up this season... its a massive ask next season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Already looks like the pressure is getting to the players, the collapse the weekend is worrying, a new team, play well for spells concede a goal and it's all over. we will do well to get in the play offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, Jimzk5 said: Already looks like the pressure is getting to the players, the collapse the weekend is worrying, a new team, play well for spells concede a goal and it's all over. we will do well to get in the play offs They are losers then how can they be under so much pressure already its only been 5 games in. The fans have been nothing but supportive towards them thus far, wont accept these kind of excuses from first team this season already. I am hoping its just that they are taking abit of time to adapt to one another as its practically a new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 3 hours ago, KSV said: Problem is.. we have 3 new teams drop down next season from the premier league with a shitload of money to spend and already better squads. If we dont come up this season... its a massive ask next season. This. Its this season or never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, ender4 said: This. Its this season or never. Unite correct. If we don't get promoted this year, we will never ever, ever return to the top league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, Mjvilla said: Unite correct. If we don't get promoted this year, we will never ever, ever return to the top league. ok, wrong use of words. It will get more and more difficult year on year, and even more difficult to stay in the premier league if we were to get promoted after say 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JamesBCFC Posted August 30, 2016 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2016 View from an outsider. Honestly out of the 3 relegated sides I had you down as the least likely to go back up this year and would have predicted a finish of about 8th. This is because of how little fight there appeared to be last season, as well as the tendency to collapse once you conceded. City are in an odd position of having only played teams new to the division so far, and out of the ones I have seen (all except Norwich), Villa were the most impressive (for 45 minutes anyway). In the first half on Saturday you were better than us all over the pitch, quicker, better movement, winning the 50/50s and second balls and pressing very well. I did say to the person next to me though that you wouldn't be able to keep that work rate up for the whole 90 minutes and your players seemed worn out from about 5 minutes into the second half. Whether there are fitness issues I don't know (there really shouldn't be, given they are professional athletes) but if you can sort that out and get your performances to last the whole 90 you will be right up there, though I still wonder about the players mental strength after the collapse on Saturday. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 35 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Whether there are fitness issues I don't know (there really shouldn't be, given they are professional athletes) but if you can sort that out and get your performances to last the whole 90 you will be right up there, though I still wonder about the players mental strength after the collapse on Saturday. It does seem there may be fitness issues, hence why we tend to play poorly 2nd half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 17 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: It does seem there may be fitness issues, hence why we tend to play poorly 2nd half which has strangely been a problem for about 5 years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Every other club in the league is looking at the money Villa and Newcastle are throwing around with envy. If any other club spent that much then automatic promotion would be the expectation. Once the window closes we just need to get some wins together to grow confidence and we'll be there or thereabouts at the end of the season. We have the players to get promotion it's now up to the manager to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2016 Its going to take 4 -5 more games before the team will gel and that's if injuries and suspensions don't come into play. We will know they have when we can hold onto narrow wins without to much fuss, kill a game. I still think were light in midfield, we have lost players there and for me it was already our area of weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 30, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 30, 2016 If we start scoring we'll take some living with in this league. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I read earlier that Villa and Newcastle have spent 110 million between us so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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