Popular Post philgetaway Posted July 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2016 Boro lost 9 games a drew another 11 last season and got promoted automatically. We we will lose games in the league - we just need everyone to stay calm and not dig players out early doors. Sheff Wednesdays successful last season was based on home form - they only lost 2! Will be a tough first game. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Personally, I think we will start slow and sluggish but come 2nd half of the season, start to really pick up, make a late break for the playoffs or even Automatic Promotion................. Play Off Winners I'm Predicting........... What a way to go up........... As for the squad. I'm in two minds. one part says, wed be better off getting rid of everyone and starting again, the other side says, with some careful confidence building, a few solid additions to add to the dressing room then we've got enough to challenge at the top. Lets face it, looking at the teams in the mix last year, they were doing it with players that the majority of our fanbase would turn their noses up at, and the flipside we've got players in our squad those clubs would love in their team.................... over to RDM to get them sorted Judgin on the links weve had as far as incomings - if we end up with Bridcutt, Ravel Morrison, Gunter, Kojida or proven players of that ilk - then I think we'll go for top 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, philgetaway said: Boro lost 9 games a drew another 11 last season and got promoted automatically. We we will lose games in the league - we just need everyone to stay calm and not dig players out early doors. Sheff Wednesdays successful last season was based on home form - they only lost 2! Will be a tough first game. That's a very rational thought process and one I'm sure many of us agree with but there's also thousands that won't see it like that unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 46 minutes ago, KSV said: Yeah but if he knows that.. surely a free transfer like Guzan should be encouraged. I agree. I think the issue weve got is, if the players we want to shift don't ask for a move then we are contractually obliged to pay up the remainder of their contracts. Id say in the case of Guzan, it will be a case of negotiation between the club to say, we wont ask a fee, but you gotta waive whats entitled to you, enabling you an easier route to another club................... I cant see the majority of the players agreeing to it............whod walk away from millions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 AVFC is broken. Lerners policies effectively gave us a board, management staff and players that was only going one way, downwards. The fact that it took 4/5 years only broke the fans patience, The managers and the players. So where are we now? New owner new board new manager & staff BUT the SAME f***ing players We need to get rid of as many bad eggs as possible. Anyone not scarred can stay, Youthers and returnees plus a couple of newbees is the only way forward. In an attempt to make my opinion as clear as possible. Toon & Norwich will know they can bounce back. Last seasons top 8 (excl. Promoteds) will believe they can go up. Teams From 9-16 will believe they can improve. The Survivors will a, know how its done b, will believe they can do it again The promoted from L1 will be on a high giving it all they've got Then there is us, AVFC breaking over a period of 4years, finally broken so badly we managed 3 wins all season. And some are saying, x will be ok at this level, y a second chance and z wont leave cos nobody wants him/them. Dr X & RDM have the hardest job from all 92 clubs in the leagues Rip it up and start again otherwise it was a waste of time buying us 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: AVFC is broken. Lerners policies effectively gave us a board, management staff and players that was only going one way, downwards. The fact that it took 4/5 years only broke the fans patience, The managers and the players. So where are we now? New owner new board new manager & staff BUT the SAME f***ing players We need to get rid of as many bad eggs as possible. Anyone not scarred can stay, Youthers and returnees plus a couple of newbees is the only way forward. In an attempt to make my opinion as clear as possible. Toon & Norwich will know they can bounce back. Last seasons top 8 (excl. Promoteds) will believe they can go up. Teams From 9-16 will believe they can improve. The Survivors will a, know how its done b, will believe they can do it again The promoted from L1 will be on a high giving it all they've got Then there is us, AVFC breaking over a period of 4years, finally broken so badly we managed 3 wins all season. And some are saying, x will be ok at this level, y a second chance and z wont leave cos nobody wants him/them. Dr X & RDM have the hardest job from all 92 clubs in the leagues Rip it up and start again otherwise it was a waste of time buying us FWIW I think we will see different performances from the same players under RDM. Sherwood was very limited and Garde/Black/Duverne was one of the worst coaching set ups I have ever seen. All 3 were useless beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: AVFC is broken. Lerners policies effectively gave us a board, management staff and players that was only going one way, downwards. The fact that it took 4/5 years only broke the fans patience, The managers and the players. So where are we now? New owner new board new manager & staff BUT the SAME f***ing players We need to get rid of as many bad eggs as possible. Anyone not scarred can stay, Youthers and returnees plus a couple of newbees is the only way forward. In an attempt to make my opinion as clear as possible. Toon & Norwich will know they can bounce back. Last seasons top 8 (excl. Promoteds) will believe they can go up. Teams From 9-16 will believe they can improve. The Survivors will a, know how its done b, will believe they can do it again The promoted from L1 will be on a high giving it all they've got Then there is us, AVFC breaking over a period of 4years, finally broken so badly we managed 3 wins all season. And some are saying, x will be ok at this level, y a second chance and z wont leave cos nobody wants him/them. Dr X & RDM have the hardest job from all 92 clubs in the leagues Rip it up and start again otherwise it was a waste of time buying us Wouldn't say so. If we are going well next season we will pull in crowds of close to 30,000 - we have the parachute money - and have already spent £13m this season. Not many clubs in this division tick all of those boxes. Seems to remember newcastl went down in such a state a few years back that no one wanted to manage them. Without massive funds Chris Hughton got them back at the first attempt. It can be done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: Dr X & RDM have the hardest job from all 92 clubs in the leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Grasshopper said: AVFC is broken. Lerners policies effectively gave us a board, management staff and players that was only going one way, downwards. The fact that it took 4/5 years only broke the fans patience, The managers and the players. So where are we now? New owner new board new manager & staff BUT the SAME f***ing players We need to get rid of as many bad eggs as possible. Anyone not scarred can stay, Youthers and returnees plus a couple of newbees is the only way forward. In an attempt to make my opinion as clear as possible. Toon & Norwich will know they can bounce back. Last seasons top 8 (excl. Promoteds) will believe they can go up. Teams From 9-16 will believe they can improve. The Survivors will a, know how its done b, will believe they can do it again The promoted from L1 will be on a high giving it all they've got Then there is us, AVFC breaking over a period of 4years, finally broken so badly we managed 3 wins all season. And some are saying, x will be ok at this level, y a second chance and z wont leave cos nobody wants him/them. Dr X & RDM have the hardest job from all 92 clubs in the leagues Rip it up and start again otherwise it was a waste of time buying us Sorry had to repost in bold so as to read again to find out if I was talking total b*****cks or just a little WE ARE BROKEN THERE IS NO QUICK FIX 2nd chances and a few honest additions amongst the SHIESTERS wont get us top 6 AVFC is Broken - The Players that took us down are STILL here and are still a broken team Edited July 22, 2016 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, KHV said: FWIW I think we will see different performances from the same players under RDM. Sherwood was very limited and Garde/Black/Duverne was one of the worst coaching set ups I have ever seen. All 3 were useless beyond belief. What makes you think that all of a sudden the squad is now un-broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, hippo said: Wouldn't say so. If we are going well next season we will pull in crowds of close to 30,000 - we have the parachute money - and have already spent £13m this season. Not many clubs in this division tick all of those boxes. Seems to remember newcastl went down in such a state a few years back that no one wanted to manage them. Without massive funds Chris Hughton got them back at the first attempt. It can be done. Bold - will repair the broken players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 8 hours ago, philgetaway said: Boro lost 9 games a drew another 11 last season and got promoted automatically. We we will lose games in the league - we just need everyone to stay calm and not dig players out early doors. Sheff Wednesdays successful last season was based on home form - they only lost 2! Will be a tough first game. that also means winning 26 games. we won 3 last season 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) I can just imagine Gabby, Bacuna, Lescott, Sinclair & Richards all of a sudden upping their game because we're in a lower league than a league we've just come down from (because they we shite in that league) watched by 30.000 playing shit clubs like SHA Edited July 22, 2016 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Biggest word in the Dictionary IF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 It's a rebuilding project for at least 2/3 years then hopefully we can challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Yep , people need to understand the owner is not going to splash major cash so we will be building very very slowly !!!!!!!! The pain is still not over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Blasterpocket68 said: Yep , people need to understand the owner is not going to splash major cash so we will be building very very slowly !!!!!!!! The pain is still not over! true but he did come out in one of his early press conferences and said money be available which you know excites fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Blasterpocket68 said: Yep , people need to understand the owner is not going to splash major cash so we will be building very very slowly !!!!!!!! The pain is still not over! How do you know this? Do you not think that if RDM identified a £30mill target the money would be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Not a chance ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 what the **** is going on in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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