Popular Post terrytini Posted April 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2016 26 minutes ago, Woodytom said: One thing I dont want is a director of football. Having read your posts I am amazed you have been able to narrow it down to one !! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 1 minute ago, terrytini said: Has anyone considered whether the retention of Reilly and the link with this guy - both of whom are a bit more along the 'moneyball' route - could mean we are continuing with that strategy and that this could be another thing that may have been at complete odds with any changes King and Bernstein wanted ? Again, I care enough to say it but not to think too hard about it, I'm afraid I am nearly all 'Villared' out....... Since when has Riley been classed as a moneyball bloke? Last year we signed a mixture of experienced and foreign players. I don't think any signing was a cheap gamble all were decent money with good or improving reputations. Our problem was not having a manager who bought into it which left us with a lop sided disenfranchised squad. We have a target man yet no one who crosses the ball! We play attacking full backs that can't cross. One up front with no midfielders that hit the box. Individually Riley's signings are decent it's just we haven't got a squad with a plan of play. I don't blame him for that. He supplies the players. He doesn't fill out the squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, terrytini said: Having read your posts I am amazed you have been able to narrow it down to one !! All the rest of the things I don't want, we already seem to have 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Moneyball is just a buzzword nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 6 hours ago, Duck said: Because so far all of our ex arsenal staff have been AMAZING. Cant argue with his record though. Just a bit dubious about another arsenal connection And at Spurs and Liverpool? I prefer the Dan Ashworth link a few weeks back although seems like that was tenuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 We are doing the Philadelphia 76's version of moneyball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 10 minutes ago, sne said: We are doing the Philadelphia 76's version of moneyball? Even They have better football players than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 44 minutes ago, Mantis said: Moneyball is just a buzzword nowadays. Agreed. But my point was really whether Reilly and Corleone were 2 that worked in a similar way. I thought they did, and that might have been a different way to what King etc envisaged..........but as I said I don't know whether that is the case or whether its relevant, just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2885487,00.html I knew Id seen it somewhere.........this database approach .......... Anyway, databases are used by loads of people, I just had it in my head that the 2 of them were a bit more 'sciencey' and a fair bit less 'go and watchy'. That's me done. Edited April 27, 2016 by terrytini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, terrytini said: Agreed. But my point was really whether Reilly and Corleone were 2 that worked in a similar way. I thought they did, and that might have been a different way to what King etc envisaged..........but as I said I don't know whether that is the case or whether its relevant, just a thought. Corleone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 We are going to start making offers no one can refuse? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mantis said: Corleone? Yeah, him and his Chinese partners are going to make Lerner an offer he can't refuse. Edited April 27, 2016 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Yeah sorry I cant separate the 2 of them in my head. No idea why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: We are going to start making offers no one can refuse? As opposed to football no one can accept ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Well we've been flogging a dead horse for longer than I care to remember..........Ba dum Tish ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, terrytini said: Well we've been flogging a dead horse for longer than I care to remember..........Ba dum Tish ! Time for the Fredo of the Lerner family to sell up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Had my way he'd be sleeping with the fishes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marley the Bognor Villan Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 46 minutes ago, terrytini said: http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2885487,00.html I knew Id seen it somewhere.........this database approach .......... Anyway, databases are used by loads of people, I just had it in my head that the 2 of them were a bit more 'sciencey' and a fair bit less 'go and watchy'. That's me done. On databases they are used by loads of clubs. There is a company here in Birmingham called Scout 7 who are one of the service providers for many clubs in Europe. I've been lucky enough to see the back end (ooh er missus) of it, it's pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralJazzman Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 1 hour ago, dn1982 said:Since when has Riley been classed as a moneyball bloke? Last year we signed a mixture of experienced and foreign players. I don't think any signing was a cheap gamble all were decent money with good or improving reputations. Our problem was not having a manager who bought into it which left us with a lop sided disenfranchised squad. We have a target man yet no one who crosses the ball! We play attacking full backs that can't cross. One up front with no midfielders that hit the box. Individually Riley's signings are decent it's just we haven't got a squad with a plan of play. I don't blame him for that. He supplies the players. He doesn't fill out the squad. http://www.myoldmansaid.com/sir-alex-ferguson-says-aston-villa-moneyball-undermines-manager/ "There’s a lot of this Moneyball thing happening, Brentford, Brighton, Aston Villa, a lot of them are doing this thing and I’m not sure it’s the right way ahead,” said Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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