Duck Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 39 minutes ago, avfcwills10 said: Done a bit of research on Comolli, he has actually had some considerable success, I didn't even know he was at arsenal but he is credited with finding Clichy and Kolo Toure. Because so far all of our ex arsenal staff have been AMAZING. Cant argue with his record though. Just a bit dubious about another arsenal connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mantis Posted April 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Duck said: Because so far all of our ex arsenal staff have been AMAZING. Cant argue with his record though. Just a bit dubious about another arsenal connection How is that relevant though? The fact that other people have come to Villa from Arsenal and (apparently) failed doesn't have any bearing on Comolli. I don't have much of an opinion on him either way, I just can't stand this kind of logic because it makes no sense. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Couldn't get onto VT for the last half an hour. I thought something had occurred and it was in meltdown mode. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 18 minutes ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Couldn't get onto VT for the last half an hour. I thought something had occurred and it was in meltdown mode. I'm usually like that but I'm so apathetic (pessimistic?) about Villa right now that the thought didn't even occur to me and I just did some homework instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted April 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 27, 2016 19 minutes ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Couldn't get onto VT for the last half an hour. I thought something had occurred and it was in meltdown mode. Same, had a quick trawl of twitter, google results from last hour to see if there was some breaking story.... Everyone is still chewing over the telegraph article though by the looks of it. oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 35 minutes ago, Mantis said: How is that relevant though? The fact that other people have come to Villa from Arsenal and (apparently) failed doesn't have any bearing on Comolli. I don't have much of an opinion on him either way, I just can't stand this kind of logic because it makes no sense. It's not really relevant at all to Comolli as as person or his ability. I'm just pointing out that the last guys we got from arsenal were highly spoken of but in the end didn't really achieve anything positive of note when they were here. In fact fox, almstadt and to a lesser extent garde were all lambasted on here for their failures this season. My point being something along the lines of, just because someone was good at arsenal doesn't mean they'll do wonders for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Duck said: It's not really relevant at all to Comolli as as person or his ability. I'm just pointing out that the last guys we got from arsenal were highly spoken of but in the end didn't really achieve anything positive of note when they were here. In fact fox, almstadt and to a lesser extent garde were all lambasted on here for their failures this season. My point being something along the lines of, just because someone was good at arsenal doesn't mean they'll do wonders for us. And my point was, just because those guys came from Arsenal and didn't do a great job doesn't mean Comolli will be the same. And if he does fail, it won't be because he once worked for Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mantis said: And my point was, just because those guys came from Arsenal and didn't do a great job doesn't mean Comolli will be the same. And if he does fail, it won't be because he once worked for Arsenal. or Liverpool or Spurs...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, Mantis said: And my point was, just because those guys came from Arsenal and didn't do a great job doesn't mean Comolli will be the same. And if he does fail, it won't be because he once worked for Arsenal. Although if he does fail he will be another on the list of people who have joined us from arsenal and failed We need a complete refit anyway. I'm sure he'd do well if given half a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I'd rather have the reported fan consortium. People that know the club and the fans, will not take financial risks and have an interest in the long term future of the club. In development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 29 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: I'd rather have the reported fan consortium. People that know the club and the fans, will not take financial risks and have an interest in the long term future of the club. In development. The long term future of the club would be better off in the hands of a multi billionaire making vast structural, aesthetic and player investments. Having a passionate group of fans leading the club to consistent mid table in the championship in no consolation for glory. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Having a consortium of fans in total harmony would be the perfect scenario. But imagine if they were all VT'ers, there would be chaos! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 The long term future of the club would be better off in the hands of a multi billionaire making vast structural, aesthetic and player investments. Having a passionate group of fans leading the club to consistent mid table in the championship in no consolation for glory. It's too much of a risk in my opinion. The ideal scenario would be something like the German model. 51% fan owned, 49% whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 27, 2016 1 minute ago, PompeyVillan said: It's too much of a risk in my opinion. The ideal scenario would be something like the German model. 51% fan owned, 49% whatever. How about 50/50? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I like to think of this as the bipolar thread, plunging to the depths of despair then soaring to new heights of ecstatic fantasy at the least little thing, usually triggered by the latest half-baked, made-up story by some football journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marley the Bognor Villan Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, briny_ear said: I like to think of this as the bipolar thread, plunging to the depths of despair then soaring to new heights of ecstatic fantasy at the least little thing, usually triggered by the latest half-baked, made-up story by some football journalist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 One thing I dont want is a director of football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Comolli is a bullshitter, a fantasist, and has a history of being divisive at clubs; his main expertise seems to be undermining the managers he works with. Edited April 27, 2016 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Well I'm not pretending to know any details, and I'm not saying there is a direct link, but I think it is true to say that Arsenal, Spurs, and Liverpool, all challenged for the title and achieved a 2nd Place finish after he left. (Assuming Spurs get 2nd this year). Someone with more time and enthusiasm may be able to show whether there is a connection between what he did when there and these outcomes. Please yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Has anyone considered whether the retention of Reilly and the link with this guy - both of whom are a bit more along the 'moneyball' route - could mean we are continuing with that strategy and that this could be another thing that may have been at complete odds with any changes King and Bernstein wanted ? Again, I care enough to say it but not to think too hard about it, I'm afraid I am nearly all 'Villared' out....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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