meme Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Even if it's a false claim that may harm someone's reputation. They even write against fellow journalists (ahem phone scandals). Full on civil/world war in Journalism Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 39 minutes ago, dn1982 said: I was just pointing out how Sky contradict themselves. They used to break stories now they just regurgitate crap off the Internet and add Sky Sports understands before it. They do spout a lot of crap, but not ‘everything’ is regurgitated from the internet. They have loads of influence and connections in the game; more than they should, and I am sure they have broken the odd exclusive. Time will tell if this has any substance, probably not, but the fact they have a reporter camped outside BMH suggests they have heard something to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted June 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2016 The accuracy of his comments or otherwise doesn't change my judgement that Ray Wilkins can suck my hole. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I'm fairly certain that Ray Wilkins is a member of UKIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted June 1, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, jon_c said: I'm fairly certain that Ray Wilkins is a member of UKIP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2016 Imagine the scenes when RDM brings Ray in as assistant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever happened to ..... Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Or is he uncle fester ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) or is he Ray Wilkins? Edited June 1, 2016 by imavillan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Even if it's a false claim that may harm someone's reputation. That philosophy has done Piers Morgan no harm whatsoever. Doesn't hide the fact that he is a grade a-1 tosspot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Ray Wilkins looks like a ball bag with eyes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 1, 2016 Administrator Share Posted June 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Gary Thomas said: They do spout a lot of crap, but not ‘everything’ is regurgitated from the internet. They have loads of influence and connections in the game; more than they should, and I am sure they have broken the odd exclusive. Time will tell if this has any substance, probably not, but the fact they have a reporter camped outside BMH suggests they have heard something to me. If you post enough rumours as "stories" then occasionally you'll score a hit. It doesn't mean they've got any better sources than anyone else. They do have a platform to say "look we told you so" for the rare hits. Why do you think in any week you can find stories in the media that "it's going to be the hottest summer on record" and "it's going to be the coldest summer on record"? It's because our cognitive biases lead us to both remember the hits more than the misses and better remember things that conform to our own preconceptions. We are hard-wired to do this and it requires concious effort to think sceptically and recognise it for what it is. But this thread isn't the place to discuss psychology.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 57 minutes ago, jon_c said: I'm fairly certain that Ray Wilkins is a member of UKIP. I don't get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof hearted Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 7 hours ago, dounavilla said: As much as I believe he absolutely has the right to keep his wealth private it's always the first question fans ask and try to seek is "what's he worth?". Its also the thing I despise most about football, its tantamount to comparing the size of your teams penis and the media are desperate to know the size of ours so they can wave it in other teams faces so to speak, not cool at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 28 minutes ago, limpid said: If you post enough rumours as "stories" then occasionally you'll score a hit. It doesn't mean they've got any better sources than anyone else. They do have a platform to say "look we told you so" for the rare hits. Why do you think in any week you can find stories in the media that "it's going to be the hottest summer on record" and "it's going to be the coldest summer on record"? It's because our cognitive biases lead us to both remember the hits more than the misses and better remember things that conform to our own preconceptions. We are hard-wired to do this and it requires concious effort to think sceptically and recognise it for what it is. But this thread isn't the place to discuss psychology.. Plus they make a shit load from steering people how to bet via Sky Bet. Certainly no conflict of interest there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 However you want to look at it if its not true and yet affects the Doc's reputation and consequently his trade then it's slander! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralJazzman Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) @7392craig Sarcasm or don't you really get it? now I don't get it..... Edited June 1, 2016 by GeneralJazzman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 That's why phrases such as 'sources suggest' and 'we understand that' come in. It becomes a fact, they have been told that and therefore nothing they've said is not true. Doesn't matter who said it or whether they were even told to say it. 'The queen is actually a goat they put a costume on' is a lie. 'I've been informed the queen is a goat they put a costume on' is perfectly true. Or it would be had I been told that, but as a journalist has a right to not reveal their source, you can't prove I wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Qwpzxjor1 said: 'The queen is actually a goat they put a costume on' is a lie. You've got to be kidding, right? Ahem. Sorry. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 14 minutes ago, GeneralJazzman said: @7392craig Sarcasm or don't you really get it? now I don't get it..... I get sarcasm, I don't get the UKIP link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralJazzman Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, 7392craig said: I get sarcasm, I don't get the UKIP link. Wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not. UKIP thing of maybe not being too welcome to foreign influx into UK, hence being a bit anti-Tony. That's my guess any hoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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