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  1. 1. Who do you want as Next Manager?

    • Steve Bruce
      4
    • David Moyes
      215
    • Nigel Pearson
      36
    • Sean Dyche
      19
    • Gary Monk
      4
    • Other
      41


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9 hours ago, terrytini said:

To be honest I can understand someone not being FOR Pearson as such, but I'm absolutely staggered anyone could be against him.

Regardless of his Assistants, regardless of Ranieri, we are talking about a guy who put together a side in the Championship which could be about to pull off the greatest football achievement since ......when ?

And some fans wouldn't have him ? Not even as their second, third choice ? I sometimes think we deserve what we get.

It wasn't him that put together the side it was his scouting team

All of which are still at Leicester

He really would be a joke appointment when there is so much better available currently.

 

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59 minutes ago, Rob182 said:

When I consider the above (which I agree with), then add in the bizarre interviews and the throttling of an opposition player during a game (not to mention the apparent 'discipline' he would bring, despite his players being mixed up in some home made porno whilst on a promotional tour of Thailand), I really struggle to see how people would chose him over Moyes.

Moyes has achieved promotion, Moyes has had many successful years in the Prem with relatively modest funds. Moyes built a side (and built decent defences, which Martinez is struggling to replicate). Moyes found some excellent bargain buys like Coleman, Baines, Stones, Arteta etc.

Moyes would command the respect that our fans and players would need. He's not a loose cannon and therefore wouldn't invite extra media pressure that we could do without in our first season back in the Championship.

Lastly, Moyes is not only a manager who could get us fighting for promotion (and hopefully achieving it), but also, if he gets us back up, he would be a manager who we can trust to keep us in the Prem and hopefully help us rebuild and stabilise in a comfortable mid-table position.

That last point is where he beats the other names. Most of the other names could push for promotion, but how will they do once promoted? Would Pearson, Bruce or Dyche be able to stabilise us in the Prem like Moyes could?

In my opinion, and with history on my side. No chance.

Well Moyes got a promotion from League 2 sixteen years ago. Pearson from the Championship less than 2 years ago.

How on earth does what a couple of players did matter ? Do you really think that was something peculiar to those players ? 

Bargain buys ? Seen Jamie Vardy recently, to name but one ?

Bizarre interviews ? Watch Pearson's interviews then watch Ron Saunders interviews, Alex Ferguson interviews, Jose Murinho etc.

Did Everton ever threaten to win the League ?

Moyes commend respect of players ? Read various stories of United players and their views of Moyes....not pretty reading.

Extra media pressure ? Whoever is in charge will have some pressure, but the Media couldn't care less about us, nor should we care about them.

And your prize point is what he does AFTER we are promoted ! Let's first choose the guy, whoever it is, that gives us the best chance of promotion.....we need to do that before anything else.

Now, I'm not saying I fancy Pearson getting it, but the coronation of Moyes for the types of reasons you give makes no more sense.

Had we not been desperate, I would never want Moyes. Dull, dull, dull, and operated. But I'd take him as I think he could get us up. No more no less than that.

And the same goes for Pearson.

And for Dyche. And Rodgers.

How some fans can be so sure who Moyes is the guy baffles me. There are half a dozen who are rightly probably being considered.

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22 minutes ago, terrytini said:

Well Moyes got a promotion from League 2 sixteen years ago. Pearson from the Championship less than 2 years ago.

How on earth does what a couple of players did matter ? Do you really think that was something peculiar to those players ? 

Bargain buys ? Seen Jamie Vardy recently, to name but one ?

Bizarre interviews ? Watch Pearson's interviews then watch Ron Saunders interviews, Alex Ferguson interviews, Jose Murinho etc.

Did Everton ever threaten to win the League ?

Moyes commend respect of players ? Read various stories of United players and their views of Moyes....not pretty reading.

Extra media pressure ? Whoever is in charge will have some pressure, but the Media couldn't care less about us, nor should we care about them.

And your prize point is what he does AFTER we are promoted ! Let's first choose the guy, whoever it is, that gives us the best chance of promotion.....we need to do that before anything else.

Now, I'm not saying I fancy Pearson getting it, but the coronation of Moyes for the types of reasons you give makes no more sense.

Had we not been desperate, I would never want Moyes. Dull, dull, dull, and operated. But I'd take him as I think he could get us up. No more no less than that.

And the same goes for Pearson.

And for Dyche. And Rodgers.

How some fans can be so sure who Moyes is the guy baffles me. There are half a dozen who are rightly probably being considered.

Moyes had a number of years success with Everton in comparison to Pearson who only had one before he was sacked (lets not forget that scandal with his son)

Do we really want more bullshit off the pitch with someone like Pearson? I would have Moyes any day over Pearson

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1 hour ago, Rob182 said:

When I consider the above (which I agree with), then add in the bizarre interviews and the throttling of an opposition player during a game (not to mention the apparent 'discipline' he would bring, despite his players being mixed up in some home made porno whilst on a promotional tour of Thailand), I really struggle to see how people would chose him over Moyes.

 

Exactly.

If we was an amazing manager, then I'd understand it. It would be worth taking the risk on his antics to achieve the success he'd bring.

But he's not. He got Leicester promoted. Great, credit to him. But there are plenty of managers who get teams promoted. Why is Pearson suddenly a better choice than all of them? Enough of a better choice to justify his disgraceful actions?

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Don't care.  Absolutely no outstanding candidates on any list I've seen.

I'd be interested to see what Gary Monk could do I suppose, but you'd have to get rid of the bad eggs in our team (so most of them then..).

Missed out on Big Sam, who would have made us safe I think.

Moyes? Meh, not done anything since Everton.

Steve Bruce? He's probably get us up, then we'd finish 17th every season ala Blues/Wigan.

Nigel Pearson? He's mental and stupid, I'd avoid.

Sean Dyche? Maybe, but very meh.

Other? Never heard of him.

Gary Neville? Maybe - he's just been sacked I know, but he knows the English leagues better arguably and I reckon he'd be absolutely determined to make his next job work.  Maybe take a gamble on him.

Boring, Boring, Boring - I don't care.

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1 minute ago, Stevo985 said:

Exactly.

If we was an amazing manager, then I'd understand it. It would be worth taking the risk on his antics to achieve the success he'd bring.

But he's not. He got Leicester promoted. Great, credit to him. But there are plenty of managers who get teams promoted. Why is Pearson suddenly a better choice than all of them? Enough of a better choice to justify his disgraceful actions?

For me Pearson is no better than Nigel Adkins when he was sacked at Southampton doing a similar job a sPearson did. now look at Adkins he is managing at League One. A complete gamble for me 

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29 minutes ago, terrytini said:

 

Bizarre interviews ? Watch Pearson's interviews then watch Ron Saunders interviews, Alex Ferguson interviews, Jose Murinho etc.

Did Everton ever threaten to win the League ?

Ron Saunders never called reporters "pricks" as far as I'm aware.

Did Leicester ever threaten to win the league under Pearson? Must have missed that.

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23 minutes ago, lapal_fan said:

 

Moyes? Meh, not done anything since Everton.

Gary Neville? Maybe - he's just been sacked I know, but he knows the English leagues better arguably and I reckon he'd be absolutely determined to make his next job work.  Maybe take a gamble on him.

You don't want Moyes because he had a disappointing couple of seasons, since Everton, yet you'd take a punt on Neville, whose only record as a manager is failure?

One of Moyes' poor seasons was probably the most difficult job in football, following Ferguson.  And he didn't do such a bad job, looking at how Van Gaal is getting on.

The one bad mark on his record is Sociedad, who were a lower-midtable team when he joined them, in a country in which he didn't speak the language. It was probably a bad choice to take that job, but I'd give him a pass on that, considering he has a decent record elsewhere.

 

 

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You don't want Moyes because he had a disappointing couple of seasons, since Everton, yet you'd take a punt on Neville, who's only record as a manager is failure?

One of Moyes poor seasons was probably the most difficult job in football, following Ferguson.  And compared to Van Gaal, he did a bloody good job.

The one bad mark on his record is Sociedad, who were a lower-midtable team when he joined them, in a country in which he didn't speak the language. It was probably a bad choice to take that job, but I'd give him a pass on that, considering he has a decent record elsewhere.

 

 

But I know what Moyes is capable of.  I don't with Neville. Curiosity and all that.

I couldn't give a flying **** who Villas next manager is to be completely honest.  Should pick someone different.

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Having seen a fair bit of Warburton at close quarters, he'd be my choice. I've absolutely no doubt he would have a positive impact but I know I'm dreaming and it'll be one of the usual wrong men that get chosen.

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1 hour ago, Demitri_C said:

Moyes gave Rooney his chance, so he obviously knows good players when he sees them . hopefully he could get Grealish back to his best

I think Rooney is an exception, he was probably better and stronger when he was 14 than Grealish is now and always destined for the highest level.  I do think Moyes has a great record of identifying talent from just about any background, be it youth, lower leagues, other Premier League players, Africa, all parts of Europe, Asia, even Irish and Scottish football.  I don't think we'd be in the position of having so many mentally weak or idiotic footballers at the club if he'd been in charge.

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31 minutes ago, lapal_fan said:

Don't care.  Absolutely no outstanding candidates on any list I've seen.

I'd be interested to see what Gary Monk could do I suppose, but you'd have to get rid of the bad eggs in our team (so most of them then..).

Missed out on Big Sam, who would have made us safe I think.

Moyes? Meh, not done anything since Everton.

Steve Bruce? He's probably get us up, then we'd finish 17th every season ala Blues/Wigan.

Nigel Pearson? He's mental and stupid, I'd avoid.

Sean Dyche? Maybe, but very meh.

Other? Never heard of him.

Gary Neville? Maybe - he's just been sacked I know, but he knows the English leagues better arguably and I reckon he'd be absolutely determined to make his next job work.  Maybe take a gamble on him.

Boring, Boring, Boring - I don't care.

Sean Dyche and Steve Bruce don't inspire me one bit. Neville too much of a gamble but guess he will go back to tv work anyway. Moyes yes if he's up for the challenge. Theres no standout candidate but we wont get that now we are a championship club.

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Well Moyes got a promotion from League 2 sixteen years ago. Pearson from the Championship less than 2 years ago.

How on earth does what a couple of players did matter ? Do you really think that was something peculiar to those players ? 

Bargain buys ? Seen Jamie Vardy recently, to name but one ?

Bizarre interviews ? Watch Pearson's interviews then watch Ron Saunders interviews, Alex Ferguson interviews, Jose Murinho etc.

Did Everton ever threaten to win the League ?

Moyes commend respect of players ? Read various stories of United players and their views of Moyes....not pretty reading.

Extra media pressure ? Whoever is in charge will have some pressure, but the Media couldn't care less about us, nor should we care about them.

And your prize point is what he does AFTER we are promoted ! Let's first choose the guy, whoever it is, that gives us the best chance of promotion.....we need to do that before anything else.

Now, I'm not saying I fancy Pearson getting it, but the coronation of Moyes for the types of reasons you give makes no more sense.

Had we not been desperate, I would never want Moyes. Dull, dull, dull, and operated. But I'd take him as I think he could get us up. No more no less than that.

And the same goes for Pearson.

And for Dyche. And Rodgers.

How some fans can be so sure who Moyes is the guy baffles me. There are half a dozen who are rightly probably being considered.

Why does what a couple of players did matter? Because that was given as an example of how he isn't perhaps this master disciplinarian that people are making him out to be. We need discipline now, and Pearson is being made out to be the master of discipline.

Jamie Vardy was a bargain buy, as were Mahrez and a few others that are now doing well at Leicester. I'd still argue that Moyes has a better record of buying bargain players. Moyes bought quality players for modest fees through his whole spell at Everton, spanning many years. Pearson's buys might now be doing amazing (under a different manager), but Moyes has a longer track record of picking up gems. Also, was Pearson in charge when they splashed £9m on that foreign striker who did absolutely nowt?

Obviously all managers will pick up duds, but I'm struggling to think of an expensive (£7m+) player that Moyes bought that was deemed to be a failure.

The bizarre interviews that Pearson did were worse, in my opinion, than the managers you've listed. There's a difference between being arrogant, cocky and getting frustrated at repeated questions like some high profile managers have done, compared to calling a journalist a prick and coming across as a crackpot, like Pearson did with the ostrich interview, and his poor attempts at criticising a journalist when he said "you're either being very, very silly or.... absolutely stupid".

He seemed like a man way out of his depth, and that whole interview was all because a journalist rightly questioned why Pearson commented that it is difficult for his players to deal with the level of 'criticism and negativity' that they'd endured. I agree with the journalist's questioning of Pearson's comments, as most pundits/papers had praised Leicester for their attacking style that season, even though they were losing games.

You say that whoever we get will have media pressure, but the media won't care about us. But if we had Pearson, they'd have one extra thing at Villa to be interested in (and not in a good way). When Leicester win the league, papers will want to ask Pearson how he feels about it. They'll probably also ask how he feels that his team, that he was sacked from, have done so well without him. Whatever questions he gets asked will be unrelated to the current job as Villa manager, so I would put money on him not taking too kindly to repeated questions about Leicester.

We don't need the added media attention and pressure that he will undoubtedly bring.

In the same way that you struggle to see why Moyes is being talked up as the best option, I struggle to see how anyone can't view him as the best option.

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38 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

For me Pearson is no better than Nigel Adkins when he was sacked at Southampton doing a similar job a sPearson did. now look at Adkins he is managing at League One. A complete gamble for me 

Agreed.  Remember Paul Lambert got back to back promotions with Norwich, and kept them in the Prem, and look how that turned out.

It would be a coup if we got Moyes in.  Or Brendan Rodgers.  

We need someone we can trust with the money that we have, as that will be key this pre-season.  Someone who has had money to spend before.  Moyes has this experience.

 

Steve Bruces record of spending money is horrible.

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But I know what Moyes is capable of.  I don't with Neville. Curiosity and all that.

I couldn't give a flying **** who Villas next manager is to be completely honest.  Should pick someone different.

I reckon you would care if you were attending as a season ticket holder next year.

(Hint hint, buy a season ticket and join the fun [emoji16][emoji6])

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