Zatman Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 3 hours ago, briny_ear said: Think you're misremembering there. Comolli was said to have undermined Jol at Spurs, engineered his sacking and advocated the installation of Ramos. Jol talked bitterly about this for a long time after his sacking. If I were a betting man, I wouldn't be putting any money on a Comolli/Jol partnership. If we do get Comolli, I WOULD put money on him creating a toxic atmosphere at the top of the club and spending loads of money while leading us to disaster. Comolli rumours do terrify me, he signs so much shit that clubs struggle to get rid of as for every Suarez their is an Andy Carroll or Jose Enrique and for every Bale was a Tainio, Mido or Alan Hutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 41 minutes ago, Richard said: You are going to die . Do want to be shot or stabbed ? I love it when you you do this Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) I don't get the praise Comolli gets for bringing in Bale and Suarez? They were well known startlets before he took them to Liverpool and Spurs, Suarez especially It's not like he pulled them from complete obscurity Edited May 12, 2016 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, AshVilla said: I don't get the praise Comolli gets for bringing in Bale and Suarez? They were well known startlets before he took them to Liverpool and Spurs, Suarez especially It's not like he pulled them from complete obscurity I guess that's not really his job though is it? He's not a scout. His job is to do the deal to get the player in that the scouts/manager identify I would have thought? So in that context he may have done well because he did the deals that made sure some very sought after talent came to the club he was at. I put the question marks in there because I honestly don't really know. That's just how it works in my head, and I don't really know if Comolli did a good job in his previous roles or not. The stuff Wenger has to say about him worries me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I think Comoli is just another version of Riley. As said above, claiming Bale and Suarez doesn't outweigh the shit he was responsible for. Another chancer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Just now, rubberman said: I think Comoli is just another version of Riley. As said above, claiming Bale and Suarez doesn't outweigh the shit he was responsible for. Another chancer. and a guy like Comoli won't want a ballsy manager - it will be a nice little little lapdog 'yes, yes, yes' !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartyn88 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Martinez sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, AstonMartyn88 said: Martinez sacked Relevant how? I hope we won't go anywhere near him. To be rejected twice by a total fraud like him is too embarrassing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Richard said: we cannot afford a flop really need as close to a sure thing as possible For me this means Moyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartyn88 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Relevant how? I hope we won't go anywhere near him. To be rejected twice by a total fraud like him is too embarrassing. Relevant because he is a football manager who is now out of work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 33 minutes ago, AstonMartyn88 said: Martinez sacked Another namby pamby on the dole. Be warned villa - the namby pamby's have had there day. Get a real man this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 More about RDM Quote Roberto Di Matteo to Aston Villa: the pros and cons of appointing a Champions League winner Andrew Raeburn Thursday 12 May 2016 1:53 pm Roberto Di Matteo is the new favourite for the Aston Villa job (Picture: Getty Images) On Wednesday, we had a new favourite for the Aston Villa job. After initial talk of David Moyes and Steve Bruce, and the emergence of Nigel Pearson as a clear front-runner, Roberto Di Matteo became odds-on with several major bookmakers. Yes, him of MK Dons, West Brom, Chelsea and Schalke fame. Or, as a Villa fan, the pesky so-and-so who reduced us to Wembley tears in 2000. I can only imagine his odds shortened dramatically either because of a flurry of bets or inside information, perhaps linked to a possible takeover. Surely someone who has managed in the Premier League and the Bundesliga and won Europe’s top prize must be good enough for a Championship club? Well – yes and no. There’s several competing schools of thought on Di Matteo… Champions League winner – and failure Even now, it’s hard to pin down the reasons for Chelsea’s 2012 Champions League success. On the face of it, Di Matteo turned round Andre Villas-Boas’ struggling side and delivered some of the most incredible European nights an English club has ever seen. But there’s an acceptance the dressing room never took to AVB’s rigid tactical approach and rotation of senior players, and much preferred Di Matteo’s more flexible style and personality. As someone who stepped up from assistant manager, and had more success in Europe than he did in the league, Di Matteo was in a sense Chelsea’s Tony Barton. But he also has the worst-ever defence of a Champions League on his CV as well. No previous winner had crashed out in the group stage the following year, as Chelsea did after defeats to Shakhtar Donetsk and Juventus. Roberto Di Matteo won the Champions League with Chelsea (Picture: Getty Images) A defensive coach? Or one with a record of attacking football? Again, mixed messages. Di Matteo won half of his matches at both MK Dons and West Brom, and his talented Chelsea side scored an average of 2.26 goals per game in his 42-match reign. That included a 5-1 win over Tottenham in the FA Cup semi-final, scoring four at Villa Park, hitting QPR for six and netting 19 goals during an eight-game unbeaten start to the 2012-13 season, with wins at Arsenal and Spurs. But his record at Schalke, his first job post-Chelsea, was very different, with only 42 goals in 33 games. Bundesliga commentator Kevin Hatchard described Di Matteo has having overseen ‘some hideous football’. The Italian’s detractors also point to the negative way Chelsea went about winning the Champions League, sitting deep and hitting on the break. Others argue he worked out how to beat Barcelona and Bayern Munich, though there were huge slices of good fortune along the way. The right personality? Or another yes man? When Di Matteo’s name first cropped up, some on Twitter questioned whether he was just ‘too nice’, especially for a club needing to transform a dressing room issues. His amiable style worked for Chelsea post-AVB, who had unsuccessfully tried to stamp his mark on Chelsea’s squad – possibly to prove himself among certain players who were older than he was. Trouble is, Villa have a history of appointing yes men subservient to a board placing strict controls on the club’s direction. Certainly Di Matteo is a different character to Nigel Pearson – who incidentally remains favourite with a couple of major bookmakers – but neither will be a success if they don’t get the right support from the ownership, whoever it may be. Verdict: A contradiction at every turn, but an interesting gamble that could yet pay off. Gamble no question, can we afford another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I wouldn't say he's any more of a gamble than most others. The key is what the new ownership is like, if they have a bit of cash to wave around, it would take a bit of an idiot to not have us challenging for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 3 hours ago, KHV said: He was awful in his second season at Chelsea and abysmal at Schalke. No thanks Can't really be described as awful in either of those two jobs. Was third at Chelsea when he got sacked in November, they went on to finish third. At Schalke a similar situation, he finished 6th, the following season they are currently 7th with 1 game left. Personally I don't think he's a bad manager, however as has been mentioned he doesn't tend to stay at clubs longer than 18 months to 2 years, whereas I think we need someone with the intention of building something longer term, and at least setting the foundations for it even if they don't get to see it right through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I wouldn't say he's any more of a gamble than most others. The key is what the new ownership is like, if they have a bit of cash to wave around, it would take a bit of an idiot to not have us challenging for promotion. Pretty much. Pearson and RDM would both be gambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 25 minutes ago, hippo said: Get a real man this time. What's this supposed to mean? Should the job interview consist of examining each candidate's chest hair and getting them to chop down a tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: What's this supposed to mean? Should the job interview consist of examining each candidate's chest hair and getting them to chop down a tree? Sounds good. At least we wouldn't have ended up with Remi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: What's this supposed to mean? Should the job interview consist of examining each candidate's chest hair and getting them to chop down a tree? How about a proper guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Davkaus said: What's this supposed to mean? Should the job interview consist of examining each candidate's chest hair and getting them to chop down a tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Just now, dounavilla said: Wots he doing with talc - puffda ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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