YLN Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 If they decide they don't want to play tomorrow... sorry, what? I have to assume he is just talking out his arse here, in response to a specific question like what will you do if the players decide they don't want to play tomorrow if Norwich have beaten Sunderland. If he has said it off his own steam, because it's actually a consideration of his.. that there's a possibility, even a small one, that the players might refuse to play because they have been relegated, then I'm not really sure I understand where he's coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I would be "gutted" if they all hand in transfer requests 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I think the question marks around attitude and culture at Villa are really only a result of the lack of quality. These are either players who no longer have quality and came looking for one last pay check (Lescott), players who moved to UK looking for a payrise but don't really have any quality (Sanchez) or players who tried to make the step up the division and lack that ability (Gestede). The only player who has a possible attitude problem that effects his form is Grealish. The rest are just useless with or without a bad attitude. We wouldn't care half as much if we were winning - I don't think our players are particuarly anymore obnoxious than a majority of other players in the league, it's just we're not as distracted by good play and victories. Look at two biggest controversies this season (spit and car) and if we're winning no one cares, they players are idiots in both circumstances but we get more offended by them if we're losing. Most footballers are selfish idiots, we just focus on that more when we're losing. I'm far more concerned by the lack of quality, no amount of attitude changing will turn poor players in to good ones. They're just not capable. I'd keep Okore, Amavi, Traore, Grealish (attitude) and Ayew. The rest? Somewhere between not fussed and please go. For what it's worth, I'd still prefer to keep the likes of Lescott over Richardson despite Lescott being a massive pr*ck. Few footballers are 'nice' so the choice only normally boils down to who's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I do wonder whether the so called bad attitude started with Sherwood. Prior to that under Lambert, who I could imagine being a tough manager, I don't recall there being a problem. I do wonder whether Sherwood fostered this 'matey', 'lads' atmosphere which the likes of Richard and Lescott bought into when they joined so along with the likes of Gabby that became the accepted approach amongst the senior players. Towards the end of Sherwood's reign there was talk of a rift in the squad between the French speaking players and the rest which I assumed was 'cultural'. Maybe it was more about attitude? Garde struck me as cerebral thinking manager and maybe, or more likely probably, he just did not have the strength of character to force the more senior players to change their now ingrained bad attitude. All guesswork obviously but you never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 34 minutes ago, Harry said: I do wonder whether the so called bad attitude started with Sherwood. Prior to that under Lambert, who I could imagine being a tough manager, I don't recall there being a problem. I do wonder whether Sherwood fostered this 'matey', 'lads' atmosphere which the likes of Richard and Lescott bought into when they joined so along with the likes of Gabby that became the accepted approach amongst the senior players. Towards the end of Sherwood's reign there was talk of a rift in the squad between the French speaking players and the rest which I assumed was 'cultural'. Maybe it was more about attitude? Garde struck me as cerebral thinking manager and maybe, or more likely probably, he just did not have the strength of character to force the more senior players to change their now ingrained bad attitude. All guesswork obviously but you never know. was rumours of attitude problems when Keane was here last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) Started under MON, if not sooner. Escalated when Houllier rightly tried to change things Edited April 16, 2016 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 commentator said coaches told them about Bournemouth corner routine last week and nobody paid attention to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Guarantee now that relegation is confirmed that stuff will be leaked by the press about them trying to get moves to other clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 As I keep on saying, there are a bunch of players that must be purged from the club by any means necessary. They are poisonous. 6 hours ago, sne said: Started under MON, if not sooner. Escalated when Houllier rightly tried to change things Yep. One of the biggest mistakes the board made was bringing in McLeish instead of appointing a manager who would continue sorting the club out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) Bet they are all already on the piss, giving the "Bantz" and booking the Dubai holidays as we speak. This means nothing to them. Edited April 16, 2016 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 if there is one thing i want next season, it is a team of players who at least appear to give a shit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: if there is one thing i want next season, it is a team of players who at least appear to give a shit. I'm often made our to be a hard man to please but this is genuinely all I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Ingram85 said: Bet they are all already on the piss, giving the "Bantz" and booking the Dubai holidays as we speak. This means nothing to them. I live in Dubai so you can rest assured I will be waiting for them at the airport... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted April 16, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 16, 2016 Not sure if it's been mentioned anywhere else, but I read that Black encouraged the players to acknowledge the fans after the game - some did, some didn't. Purely out of curiosity, does anyone know which of the players braved it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Now that we're officially down I hope the abuse intensifies now against the players at the next home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 If the team bus crashed on the way home... I wouldn't shed a tear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Don't say that. Its a lovely coach,. Tri-axle Volvo with leather trim, galley kitchen, wi-fi, HD TV's and marble tables. Plus the company who runs the coach are a decent bunch of guys, despite being blues fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Stanley twists the blade... http://talksport.com/football/youre-disgrace-call-me-stan-collymore-rants-aston-villa-stars-talksport-160416192319 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Fish rots from the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 10 hours ago, Harry said: I do wonder whether the so called bad attitude started with Sherwood. "Please, sir, it was that nasty Tim Sherwood who made me behave like a complete arsehole." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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