StefanAVFC Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, colhint said: Scenario 2 We want a deal with south America, we want to sell them machinery and technology the want to sell more livestock and coffee. We say, ok 25 other countries say ok, but one says no. deal off for everyone. 100% you can, but if you can get those products closer to home, why import them from across the world? There's a reason we don't buy tomatoes from Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 20, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted October 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, Enda said: Yes, you might not know this but I'm always right You’re right on this. (I used to be always right, then one day that nice @Xannpointed out that I was wrong about something or other and so I can’t say that any more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 The apparent problem with the EU was a lack of transparency from unelected bureaucrats Quote Britain’s Brexit chief has refused to publish details of his plans for changes to the Northern Ireland protocol, despite having already shared them with the EU. Lord Frost said the legal text – which opposition parties want to scrutinise – was not a “new stage or evolution in our position” and simply reflected the UK’s position set out earlier in the summer. Behind paywall but you get the hypocrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Some farmers complaining about our New Zealand trade deal, while a Kiwi news station does some laps over it: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 8 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Some farmers complaining about our New Zealand trade deal, while a Kiwi news station does some laps over it: I seem to remember a lot of farmers being very pro brexit because they were upset about subsidising others through CAP so frankly these guys can **** off. Reap what you sow my friends. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: I seem to remember a lot of farmers being very pro brexit because they were upset about subsidising others through CAP so frankly these guys can **** off. Reap what you sow my friends. I drove past many, many farmers fields with pro-brexit signs every 20m. Even then I struggled to imagine how live could be better for them that it already was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Genie said: I drove past many, many farmers fields with pro-brexit signs every 20m. Even then I struggled to imagine how live could be better for them that it already was. Yep I saw the same thing. It seemed (as in the fishing industry) to be driven primarily by good old anti-French xenophobia. I just can’t have any sympathy for any of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AXD Posted October 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2021 55 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: I seem to remember a lot of farmers being very pro brexit because they were upset about subsidising others through CAP so frankly these guys can **** off. Reap what you sow my friends. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Some farmers complaining about our New Zealand trade deal, while a Kiwi news station does some laps over it: her problem there is the belief that when the consumer gets to the shelves one will be cheaper than the other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 27, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 hours ago, villa4europe said: her problem there is the belief that when the consumer gets to the shelves one will be cheaper than the other... Yep, the supermarkets will just buy the cheapest they can and charge the public the same price they do now. More money for the middle men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 27, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, tinker said: Yep, the supermarkets will just buy the cheapest they can and charge the public the same price they do now. More money for the middle men. Not this again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted October 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2021 The worst health crisis in a century, causing the entire world to shut down for nearly two years, just imagine how embarrassed you'd have to be if there were something twice as bad as that and you'd actually asked for it to happen. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 11 hours ago, ml1dch said: The worst health crisis in a century, causing the entire world to shut down for nearly two years, just imagine how embarrassed you'd have to be if there were something twice as bad as that and you'd actually asked for it to happen. I can only assume that when people like JRM say it’ll take decades to see benefits post Brexit that it’s when we’ve rejoined the EU. Its makes me so mad that (largely) intelligent people sold lies to the country that will make millions of people worse off for generations to come just so they could make a few quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Genie said: I can only assume that when people like JRM say it’ll take decades to see benefits post Brexit that it’s when we’ve rejoined the EU. Its makes me so mad that (largely) intelligent people sold lies to the country that will make millions of people worse off for generations to come just so they could make a few quid. Maybe, just maybe it's the realisation that this has happened will start to bring about changes to the way our political system is being run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, tinker said: Maybe, just maybe it's the realisation that this has happened will start to bring about changes to the way our political system is being run. I’d love it to be true but it won’t not for a while I think. Too many people very vocally backed Boris and the Conservatives during Brexit to admit they made a mistake and things need to change. You still see it now “I knew what I voted for” etc. Absolutely impossible to know what the vote was for in 2016 but some people are absolutely defiant they didn’t make a mistake and it’s going as they expected. They’ll double down and keep backing the Tories to show how right they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Friendly reminder: these problems are all happening before the EU starts retaliating for breaching the agreements signed only last year. The EU has pretended to play happy families so far. Can’t see it lasting much longer. (France announced sanctions on British fishermen last night.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Enda said: Friendly reminder: these problems are all happening before the EU starts retaliating for breaching the agreements signed only last year. The EU has pretended to play happy families so far. Can’t see it lasting much longer. (France announced sanctions on British fishermen last night.) We haven't breached any agreement, have we? The issue is French fisherman have to prove historical fishing in our waters to get a permit and there is a delay in granting permits and they also have difficulty proving they have fished in our waters? Might be the press pushing this agenda as cheap click bait. A British vessel was impounded for fishing illegally in French waters, which is standard practice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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