sidcow Posted December 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 24, 2020 BBC just reported that UK firms will now need to fill in 200 million extra customs forms cost of £7bn per year. So by my calculation, that is 1/3 of the savings JUST IN FORMS FOR PHYSICAL EXPORTS. Add in the other massive inconvenience and inefficiency this is going to add into our day to day lives it's clear we are going to be miles out of pocket. The sheer number of functions which we are going to have to pay for ourselves which previously came out of the EU budget will dwarf that. So many agencies and operations we now have to duplicate. And still nothing about what actually earns our real money. Financial Services. All this talk about fishing which apparently compared to the UK GDP represents 0.1% of what Financial Services does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meregreen Posted December 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Thank **** this shits over with. 2 years of shambles bullshit and utter chaos I’m afraid the bullshit and chaos is only just beginning. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 25, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 25, 2020 Absoloute Word Removed. Worst Xmas Present ever! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 25, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 25, 2020 13 hours ago, Davkaus said: And we won't have as many foreign people here, at the cost of it being harder for us to go to the EU. We won't have as many European foreign people here. We'll have to up the numbers from China, India and Africa in order to make up the deficit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, bickster said: Absoloute Word Removed. Worst Xmas Present ever! Sadly he’s lost the receipt too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lichfield Dean Posted December 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Seat68 said: Concerning that this sort of stuff is making its way into legal documentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lichfield Dean said: Concerning that this sort of stuff is making its way into legal documentation. My employer in the mortgage sector, not the government, until last month referenced the inland revenue in their customer documentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted December 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Seat68 said: My employer in the mortgage sector, not the government, until last month referenced the inland revenue in their customer documentation. Well, I'm not claiming it hasn't happened before! But still, referencing outdated tech is bad enough in itself, but it does make you wonder what sort of errors are scattered through the rest of the documentation. And with errors you will get abuse and confusion and other problems. As David Allen Green says, legal documentation is more akin to a computer program than a novel, and it will have its share of bugs. Basic errors like the above suggest there will be a LOT of bugs in there. Going to be a fun few months ahead I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I know how popular this lad is On Here: **** pillock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I know how popular this lad is On Here: **** pillock. This too Particularly at this time? Are we at war in Europe? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: This too Particularly at this time? Are we at war in Europe? It's great film. It has literally no relevance to Brexit and/or Covid, which I'm assuming is what he is referencing. **** idiot Edit: actually I guess Dunkirk could be argued as a failure of leadership. I take it back Edited December 28, 2020 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I know how popular this lad is On Here: **** pillock. My MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: My MP You have my heartfelt condolences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted December 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2020 So musicians are not on the list of automatic visas which is going to impact on tours 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) On 24/12/2020 at 22:39, sidcow said: BBC just reported that UK firms will now need to fill in 200 million extra customs forms cost of £7bn per year. Not true at all. Where I work we export £1mil of goods into the EU every year. I’ve been one of a team of 4 working on making sure we are Brexit ready. All we’ve had to do is change our commercial invoice so it shows specific data, so basically changed the template. Extra/new cost comes from new FCA incoterms which makes the seller responsible for the Export Declaration which has the go with each shipment, these cost approx £20 a time and they are generated by the carrier on behalf of the seller, so the haulage companies are making money off these declarations! (Don’t tell you that on the bbc do they). We negotiated with our customers to consolidate shipment to increase efficiency, reduce the amount of export declarations and also save our customers transport costs. We are ready to go now, our paperwork has been approved for use and our first shipments into France and Belgium are already booked for mid Jan. Trading with the EU will still be easier than trading with the US, that is another market I am familiar with as we export roughly the same amount of goods there. Edited December 28, 2020 by AndyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, AndyC said: Not true at all. Where I work we export £1mil of goods into the EU every year. I’ve been one of a team of 4 working on making sure we are Brexit ready. All we’ve had to do is change our commercial invoice so it shows specific data, so basically changed the template. Extra/new cost comes from new FCA incoterms which makes the seller responsible for the Export Declaration which has the go with each shipment, these cost approx £20 a time and they are generated by the carrier on behalf of the seller, so the haulage companies are making money off these declarations! (Don’t tell you that on the bbc do they). We negotiated with our customers to consolidate shipment to increase efficiency, reduce the amount of export declarations and also save our customers transport costs. We are ready to go now, our paperwork has been approved for use and our first shipments into France and Belgium are already booked for mid Jan. Trading with the EU will still be easier than trading with the US, that is another market I am familiar with as we export roughly the same amount of goods there. You just said it wasn't true then proved it was true 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, AndyC said: Not true at all. Where I work we export £1mil of goods into the EU every year. I’ve been one of a team of 4 working on making sure we are Brexit ready. All we’ve had to do is change our commercial invoice so it shows specific data, so basically changed the template. Extra/new cost comes from new FCA incoterms which makes the seller responsible for the Export Declaration which has the go with each shipment, these cost approx £20 a time and they are generated by the carrier on behalf of the seller, so the haulage companies are making money off these declarations! (Don’t tell you that on the bbc do they). We negotiated with our customers to consolidate shipment to increase efficiency, reduce the amount of export declarations and also save our customers transport costs. We are ready to go now, our paperwork has been approved for use and our first shipments into France and Belgium are already booked for mid Jan. Trading with the EU will still be easier than trading with the US, that is another market I am familiar with as we export roughly the same amount of goods there. It’s not true there’s extra costs and extra work, four of you have been working on it? Was it voluntary work in your spare time? You’ve designed out the extra paperwork....someone else is going to do it. Will you be avoiding lorry jams at ports by only using trucks and docks? You are Dominic Raaab, and I claim my £5. I don’t doubt for a second that for each individual transaction the changes for the vast majority of goods will be minimal, negligible even. But to suggest it’s easy, done and dusted and only a problem due to profiteering haulage companies is a bit of a stretch. But equally, if that is true, I’d love for you to expose this racket in the press. I’d imagine there’s a fair few newspapers and tory MP’s would love to have a chat and a photo op.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Follyfoot said: My MP He’s your MP because people vote for him. They’re the ones to blame. Without all those voters, he’d just be another ‘local character’, half naked in a bush, shouting at traffic and banned from Aldi for that incident in the bakery aisle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: He’s your MP because people vote for him. They’re the ones to blame. Without all those voters, he’d just be another ‘local character’, half naked in a bush, shouting at traffic and banned from Aldi for that incident in the bakery aisle. Leather clad joy boy, You really would have to do something special not to get elected as a Tory around these parts. Edited December 28, 2020 by Follyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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