Enda Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: You'd welcome them then Enda? Northern Ireland is a completely fabricated, gerrymandered state, born out of sectarianism. It is two-thirds of one-quarter of a small island. That bloody border. Brits (no offence pal) have no idea the harm that border has caused. Innocent people, Protestant and Catholic and Other, murdered because of that border. And we’ve only made it right in the past twenty years. So please don’t screw it up again with Brexit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Hopefully not Enda, but we are very good at intefering. Too many people had an interest in a continuation of the troubles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Your answer leaves me with even more questions. Your question has left some of us with even more questions. Edited July 13, 2020 by snowychap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2020 55 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Because its selective, and probably inefficient. What on earth do you imagine this actually means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Genuine question, feel free to be as abusive as you normally are to anybody who doesn't share your view:,is there any "remainer" on here who is actually going to take advantage of the free movement, and move to live in the EU? I've been taking advantage of it every time I go on holiday within the EU. My daughter who has a very good degree in French has had to find work in the UK which is not what she wanted to do What do you actually think we've gained by ending it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 You've just answered it bic. Holidays have got nothing to do with freedom of movement, and i presume your daughter has got a job over here because the job opportunities are better over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Holidays have got nothing to do with freedom of movement Yes they have, just wait and see. Wait until you see the queues for non-EU Passports at Passport Control, Leaving the EU also means we no longer have access to EU medical facilities, we are no longer entitled to our EU health cards and the benefits it carried. Stating that holdays have nothing to do with FoM is just ill informed opinion. You are demonstrably wrong 4 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: and i presume your daughter has got a job over here because the job opportunities are better over here No the job opportunities are not better "over here", she would be earning 50% more in an EU country but guess what, they aren't hiring UK nationals anywhere near as much because they have to prove the case of needing to emply that person over an EU Citizen. So no, you're actually talking crap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Genuine question, feel free to be as abusive as you normally are to anybody who doesn't share your view:,is there any "remainer" on here who is actually going to take advantage of the free movement, and move to live in the EU? I moved to Sweden at the end of last year on my British passport and I can confirm there are truckloads of Brits living here Swedish universities also offer free degrees in English for EU nationals so a lot of English kids are here in the universities getting their degree without the usual student debt. I also know a couple of the guys on this forum have moved to Germany and Poland in recent years. There are thousands of Brits living in the south of France and Spain using freedom of movement as well. It’s been a pretty popular right that Brits had which is now been lost unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 So we wouldn't be entitled to any medical treatment in the EU then? Medical/Travel Insurance? I'm not privvy to your daughters offers, but i think the current economic impact from covid is giving many employers the opportunity to reduce staff intakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Its not going to be lost though is it. If you want to move abroad , you still can, if you are offered a job abroad, you can still go, it might be slightly more difficult, not that difficult tbh, but they still can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: So we wouldn't be entitled to any medical treatment in the EU then? Medical/Travel Insurance? Jesus wept, do you not know what you've denied yourself access to? Quote If you have an accident or become ill while you're on holiday, you can get reduced-cost or free state-provided medical care in Europe thanks to the EHIC EHIC Do you thinl losing that free healthcare will have a positive or negative effect on your health insurance? 13 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: I'm not privvy to your daughters offers, but i think the current economic impact from covid is giving many employers the opportunity to reduce staff intakes. I really don't think you predicted the effects of a worldwide pandemic on the jobs market when you voted. I also fail to see its relevance here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: If you want to move abroad , you still can, lets see if you understand this... You can, IF, that country will allow you to Before, you had that as a right 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted July 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: If you want to move abroad , you still can, if you are offered a job abroad, you can still go, it might be slightly more difficult, not that difficult tbh, but they still can. This is utterly tragic stuff. Let's assume for a second that the above is true. It isn't, but let's assume. You would expect the reciprocal arrangement to also be the case, no? So the British person who is offered a job can still just go (as you erroneously believe), does that mean that the Romanian fruit picker or Polish care worker is also still able to come here if offered a job? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Its not going to be lost though is it. If you want to move abroad , you still can, if you are offered a job abroad, you can still go, it might be slightly more difficult, not that difficult tbh, but they still can. I moved without a job and have now found one since moving here. It will be more difficult for retirees looking to retire abroad. They used to get heath coverage but now will have to find private health insurance which can get very expensive when you get to retirement age. Students are the worst hit. They will be treated as 3rd country nationals and have to pay full international fees to study abroad. Edited July 13, 2020 by LondonLax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: If you want to move abroad , you still can, if you are offered a job abroad, you can still go, it might be slightly more difficult, not that difficult tbh, but they still can. People may be able to go (depending upon the arrangements put in place in a particular country) but they won't have the right to. UK nationals will be third country nationals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Fair enough Chris, but Switzerlands not in the EU They are however, in the Schengen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I really can’t wait for the moment to dawn on some folk. Last year i arrived back from a week away to Luton airport at around 1.30am, we obviously walked straight through passport control but a plane had arrived also from I assume Israel (a lot of orthodox folk about with the outfits on), anyway, they were in a queue stretching god knows how long being served by what looked like one single person, looked horrific. Now obvs we’ll never have that issue coming back into the UK, but going out may be another story. I’m convinced now more than ever so many people really didn’t have a clue what they’ve been voting for over the past 5 or so years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 4 hours ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Genuine question, feel free to be as abusive as you normally are to anybody who doesn't share your view:,is there any "remainer" on here who is actually going to take advantage of the free movement, and move to live in the EU? Why should people respond to you in good faith, if you started your post with ad hominem? For the record, I moved abroad within the EU before the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: Because its selective, and probably inefficient. This makes no sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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