Davkaus Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 It's laughable that it's considered remotely acceptable to keep having parliament vote, again and again, on exactly the same thing, until the government gets the answer it wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 And now the haunted pencil is saying he'll vote for the deal at the third attempt. Seems the ERG will support the deal if May goes. Baker was saying no just a few minutes ago but looks like that has no bearing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Davkaus said: It's laughable that it's considered remotely acceptable to keep having parliament vote, again and again, on exactly the same thing, until the government gets the answer it wants. See earlier post re Erskine May. It's not. They will have to dress it up somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: It's laughable that it's considered remotely acceptable to keep having parliament vote, again and again, on exactly the same thing, until the government gets the answer it wants. But it's not the EU doing it so it's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: It's laughable that it's considered remotely acceptable to keep having parliament vote, again and again, on exactly the same thing, until the government gets the answer it wants. Well it is also problematic in that the Tory party were only able to attempt a change leader of leader after the first time the vote failed. The opportunity wasn’t taken then so they can’t try again and she is potentially free to keep dragging up her failed plan. The caviat to that is that an MP asked if it was actually possible to keep returning an unchanged and failed bill over and over and the Speaker has said he’d have to decide on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chindie said: the haunted pencil I saw someone on Twitter earlier refer to him as Antique Slenderman 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Surely at some stage they're going to realise a second referendum is the only answer. Borrow some Zimbabwean election officials or whatever if needs be to make double sure remain wins, then we can pretend this never happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 He says it like a disinterested observer, rather than a main cause of the chaos. A big boy done it, and ran away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The bar closes in an hour, and the owner is preparing to close up shop. The British Parliament says it wants to keep drinking all night long, and told the PM to make it happen... but refused to sign the extension forms she brought back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, Davkaus said: It's laughable that it's considered remotely acceptable to keep having parliament vote, again and again, on exactly the same thing, until the government gets the answer it wants. Some might say that, voting again on something, is democracy. Even though we're told it's not. The first Meaningful Vote was the Will of Parliament, if we follow consistent logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 The Beeb are talking about the likelihood of a fourth vote. Christ. Are the ERG enough to swing it on their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: The Beeb are talking about the likelihood of a fourth vote. Christ. Are the ERG enough to swing it on their own? No. The accepted logic is: 1) get the DUP onside somehow 2) the ERM feel a bit silly acting more outraged over Northern Ireland than the DUP so fall into line 3) Labour MPs who see no point torching their party relationship for something that is bound to fail, but will reluctantly vote for something that will squeak over the line They all need to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackbauer24 Posted March 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 As I understand it, there is now a bigger gap in time between the referendum and a possible second one than there was between the General Election in 2015 and the General Election in 2017. Yet asking the public twice is undemocratic? Extend Brexit, decide which Leave you want then put it up against Remain. The day after you sign the papers and it's done either way. It just seems like common sense to me, regardless of which side of the fence you are. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: The Beeb are talking about the likelihood of a fourth vote. Christ. Are the ERG enough to swing it on their own? Very nearly; if joined by the DUP, probably yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Very nearly; if joined by the DUP, probably yes. Not with the Tory rebels I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Not with the Tory rebels I don't think. She lost yesterday by 149. There are between 50 and 60 ERGers, and 11 DUPers, so if they all moved en bloc it would be pretty damn close. However, you might be right to be fair - there could be more Tory moderates who switch back to voting No, and there are some of the ERGers who are hard to imagine voting for the deal . . . 'Antique Slenderman' (that as brilliant, thanks @NurembergVillan) gets all the press, but he's not the head-bangiest by a long stretch. Can anyone really see Andrew Bridgen voting for it under any circumstances? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Be funny if May calls in sick tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said: Disgusting. Meaningless vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 i wonder why people have had enough of it all? 2nd referendum might draw people out but the next GE will see some record setting low turn outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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