Chindie Posted March 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: Government lose the vote by 4. 312 v 308. Shock. Still doesn't change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 That's horrifyingly close. I thought this one would be a whitewash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, bickster said: despite what it says, no deal is still what happens on March 29th unless something like a deal supersedes it true, forgot it’s not ‘legally binding’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: That's horrifyingly close. I thought this one would be a whitewash. this is a vote on the amendment to the later vote, right? highly confused edit: never mind, get it. Edited March 13, 2019 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Chindie said: Shock. Still doesn't change anything. It strengthens the EU’s hand to call the UK’s bluff. Particularly when deciding on granting an extension for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: this is a vote on the amendment to the later vote, right? highly confused It replaced the version the Tory’s wanted to vote on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, LondonLax said: It strengthens the EU’s hand It doesn't need strengthening, it never has 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 So, we're back to May's deal, a referendum or a general election. Does this mean May has to go and ask for more time, and if she does, will the EU demand a referendum or election before they'll agree to that? I suspect we might be down to revoking article 50 or a No Deal no one wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, OutByEaster? said: or a general election. Not sure why you think that's going to stop this process. There are certainly no Guarantees, the EU would have to be certain that one of the two main parties (thats Corbyn's Labout to all intents) were going to campaign to remain. I really don't think a GE will get an extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, bickster said: It doesn't need strengthening, it never has Touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, bickster said: Not sure why you think that's going to stop this process. There are certainly no Guarantees, the EU would have to be certain that one of the two main parties (thats Corbyn's Labout to all intents) were going to campaign to remain. I really don't think a GE will get an extension I think they'd go for it on the likelihood that any new leader on either side would call a referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, OutByEaster? said: I think they'd go for it on the likelihood that any new leader on either side would call a referendum. What new leaders?, this has to happen in the next two weeks or we're out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, bickster said: What new leaders?, this has to happen in the next two weeks or we're out The decision to have an election? The election itself wouldn't need to happen for an extension. The EU have already said they'd extend if there were a major change at our end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: The decision to have an election? The election itself wouldn't need to happen. Where are the new leaders coming from in under two weeks? To show the EU that remain could be an option. We're well past the point that this can happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OutByEaster? Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, bickster said: Where are the new leaders coming from in under two weeks? To show the EU that remain could be an option. We're well past the point that this can happen If May resigned, I'm guessing that would be enough of a trigger for the EU to put forward an extension. An election could follow that. I'm of the understanding that for a major change, the EU would delay until we were back to the table with a position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, snowychap said: Snowy, I'm going to need an explanation on that one. I don't get any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 I'm trying to figure Malthouse out - we can't agree a delay, but we've voted on a proposal to delay for a couple of months to give us time to prepare for no deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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