Genie Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 39 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Katie Hopkins is absolutely mentally ill. She is exactly like that total word removed Milo Yiannopoulos. I genuinely believe that neither of them actually 'believe' in anything, including the causes they 'promote'. They are pure sociopaths who get off on the outrage they can cause and the money that it ultimately brings them. Pure scum. I'm not sure if there is a term for it, but its purely for financial gain ultimately. She's found an angle that works for her financially and will hold it, or adjust it to try and keep an audience and some money coming in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 1, 2019 Moderator Share Posted November 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Genie said: She's found an angle that works for her financially She really hasn't, it has bankrupted her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, bickster said: She really hasn't, it has bankrupted her Kind of agree. She has lost several right wing "jobs" by over stepping what is allowed to be said... but she got the work by spouting shite to a specific audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Katie Hopkins is absolutely...pure scum. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Katie H clearly has some personal issues and I genuinely hope she recovers. Best thing we can do is stop re posting her stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 01/11/2019 at 11:30, NurembergVillan said: I'd rather do it myself than see her doing it. Mate, I like you, please don't paint anything on her nipples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 just read this on the BBC news ticker and the thought of more negotiations made me shudder. Quote Jeremy Corbyn has so far refused to say whether he would back Leave or Remain in another referendum. However, if elected PM, he says he will secure a "sensible" deal with the EU and put this to the people in another referendum, with the choice of remaining in the EU or leaving with the deal Labour negotiates. For the love of god, no more. Pick one of the 2 we already have. Offer the public the choice to accept it or remain and be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Genie said: Pick one of the 2 we already have. We don't have two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2019 Well if he negotiated a new deal and then publicly declared that he'd not back that deal in a referendum then he'd look like a massive bellend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: We don't have two. I thought we had 1 negotiated by Teresa May and another, similar but not the same deal negotiated by Boris Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: We don't have two. Technically correct but it isn't much of a stretch to go back to the EU and say, "you know what, we prefer May's deal on the WA", they could hardly turn it down and there's be no need for talks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, bickster said: Technically correct but it isn't much of a stretch to go back to the EU and say, "you know what, we prefer May's deal on the WA", they could hardly turn it down and there's be no need for talks Yes, If Labour got in I'd prefer they looked at what we had, then stuck it on a ballot paper alongside remain. I wish they wouldn't even pretend they could negotiate something better with the EU. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, bickster said: Technically correct but it isn't much of a stretch to go back to the EU and say, "you know what, we prefer May's deal on the WA", they could hardly turn it down and there's be no need for talks That's possibly true but it's just as possible that they'd accept a very different approach from a different bunch, i.e. moving to something else completely on the single market and CU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, snowychap said: That's possibly true but it's just as possible that they'd accept a very different approach from a different bunch, i.e. moving to something else completely on the single market and CU. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Genie said: I thought we had 1 negotiated by Teresa May and another, similar but not the same deal negotiated by Boris Johnson. No, we currently have one, the one agreed between Johnson's lot and the EU. 5 minutes ago, Genie said: Yes, If Labour got in I'd prefer they looked at what we had, then stuck it on a ballot paper alongside remain. I wish they wouldn't even pretend they could negotiate something better with the EU. Whether it would be 'better' or not is a matter of opinion. As above, if you accept the possibility that the recent and current agreement that has been negotiated between Johnson's government and the EU can be droppped in favour of a previous, different one then it seems bizarre to rule out the possibility of a change to something different. Going back to May's deal woulld take more than just a phone call, a nod and a wink. Edited November 5, 2019 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, snowychap said: Whether it would be 'better' or not is a matter of opinion. As above, if you accept the possibility that the recent and current agreement that has been negotiated between Johnson's government and the EU can be droppped in favour of a previous, different one then it seems bizarre to rule out the possibility of a change to something different. Going back to May's deal woulld take more than just a phone call, a nod and a wink. Both "deals" are typed up ready to go. As the EU has approved both I don't see what the difference is to them it is if a new government opted for the first or the second one? If the EU said the TM WA offer had expired then fair enough. I know its a giant leap ahead, but it would be interesting to see how Farage handled such a scenario as he said these WA's are worse than remaining. If the options were leave with either deal or remain, would he campaign for remain? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Johnson's deal is just a slower No Deal anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted November 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Johnson's deal is just a slower No Deal anyway Typically Truss seems to have forgotten she has an election to fight between then and now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Genie said: Both "deals" are typed up ready to go. As the EU has approved both I don't see what the difference is to them it is if a new government opted for the first or the second one? If the EU said the TM WA offer had expired then fair enough. The difference is that they reopened the Withdrawal Agreement as negotiated by May's government and renegotiated a new arrangement between them and Johnson's government. That is the thing that is ready to go. The May one is in the bin. Yes, going back to the May agreement could be a possibility but I don't think that is the same as suggesting that there are two 'live' options on the table that the UK unilaterallly has a choice of (and thus could pick from and put to the electorate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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