StefanAVFC Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 And now, for more of our regularly scheduled programming: Quote Boris Johnson's Brexit deal will leave the UK £70bn worse off than if it had remained in the EU, a study by the National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) has found. It concluded that GDP would be 3.5% lower in 10 years' time under the deal. The independent forecaster's outlook is one of the first assessments of how the economy will fare under the new deal. But the Treasury said it plans on a 'more ambitious' agreement with the EU than 'NIESR is basing its findings on'. A spokesman said: "We are aiming to negotiate a comprehensive free trade agreement with the European Union, which is more ambitious than the standard free trade deal that NIESR has based its findings on." NIESR said approval of the prime minister's deal "would reduce the risk of a disorderly outcome, but eliminate the possibility of a closer trading relationship with the EU". https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50219036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: ironic , seeing as you raised the subject of making claims that aren't true . Sorry Dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: That isn't what's happening and you know that. I am explaining what tactical voting is, with no success. I am voting Lib Dem more than likely, so why would I patronise and ridicule him for voting the same way as me? I know what tactical voting is. "Your with no success" line is implying im dumb. Your coming across a tad bit patrronising stefan because I disagree with views on you. You might mot mean to be but you are. I'm happy to engage in debate in a constructive manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: Sorry Dad. He has a point though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 On that note another thread I'll be stepping out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I know what tactical voting is. "Your with no success" line is implying im dumb. Your coming across a tad bit patrronising stefan because I disagree with views on you. You might mot mean to be but you are. I'm happy to engage in debate in a constructive manner. You keep replying as if you don't understand a word I'm saying. It's nothing to do with what Corbyn's opinion on Brexit is vs the Lib Dems. It's solely about keeping Tories out. Your total focus on Corbyn is blinding you. I asked you the same question twice and both times you ignored it. Which is more important to you? Your anti-Corbyn view or your view as a Remainer. Remainer = tactical vote Anti-Corbyn = Policy vote (which again your understanding of is lacking because you keep saying a vote for Corbyn is a vote for leaving, even though labour policy is to Remain/2nd ref) Edited October 30, 2019 by StefanAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 37 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Oh, who knew. Voting for Corbyn will actually be quite difficult, but it's got to be done. Which site did you pull this off mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, MCU said: Which site did you pull this off mate? https://tactical.vote/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, PieFacE said: https://tactical.vote/ Cheers, looks like everybody's got the same idea... seems to have crashed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) I'm in a pretty massive tory safe seat, so will have to vote labour to have any chance to remove my MP Roll on PR voting so I can vote lib dem Edited October 30, 2019 by Mozzavfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, MCU said: Cheers, looks like everybody's got the same idea... seems to have crashed! This one is good too: https://www.getvoting.org/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MCU Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Interesting.. (Gloucester) 2017 ELECTION RESULTS Conservative 27,208 50.32% Labour 21,688 40.11% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: He has a point though. Doesn't change my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted October 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, avfcDJ said: Looks like the best vote for me here, to get rid of Tories, is Green. That's what I will do. I would have chosen Labour or Lib Dems for the same reason. Getting rid of Tories is the most important thing. Intrigued as to where you are if Greens are the option to get rid of the Tories?! Mine is Labour, but given it is Labour Majority of approximately 7,000 that doesn't surprise me. Will probably still vote Greens even though it is irrelevant. I suspect that Brexit Party will likely cause more damage to Tories and Labour in the area. I also suspect that actually the impact of the Brexit Party will be significant. Whilst I suspect they will get little to no seats, I can see them taking a lot of votes from both main parties. The key will be how well both of those parties keep their voters happy. Corbyn has done the Labour Party no favours since 2017 election and unless he can pull it out of the bag again, I can see a lot of voters being turned off by him and going elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: That isn't what's happening and you know that. I am explaining what tactical voting is, with no success. I am voting Lib Dem more than likely, so why would I patronise and ridicule him for voting the same way as me? Surprised by that mate. Thought you would have gone for the tactical vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Surprised by that mate. Thought you would have gone for the tactical vote? It is the tactical vote for my constituency. Voting tactically doesn't mean VOTE LABOUR. It means voting the best chance to beat the Tories. Didn't I explain this 2 or 3 times already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 30, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 30, 2019 29 minutes ago, cyrusr said: Intrigued as to where you are if Greens are the option to get rid of the Tories?! He lives on the Island that Time Forgot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: It is the tactical vote for my constituency. Voting tactically doesn't mean VOTE LABOUR. It means voting the best chance to beat the Tories. Didn't I explain this 2 or 3 times already? Alright mate, relax! I was only asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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