BigJim Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 35 minutes ago, villakram said: That's pretty much exactly what the exit poll says. Of course, when somebody who voted leave actually provides a quantitative reason for voting leave, then we'll stop thinking you're tossers because you'll have provided us with some evidence that you're not. I think you may be wrong. It doesn’t show that 71% of those who voted Leave believe that the internet is a force for ill, though the slide is designed to suggest that. What it actually shows is that 71% of those believe that the internet is a force for ill (it doesn’t say how many believe that), voted Leave. Maybe only 100 of those interviewed said they believe the internet is a force for ill, we just don’t know. It only tells us 71% of them voted Leave. Pretty useless survey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: What rights is that they've lost since 7 am this morning when the vote was declared ? Care to answer the question with an answer rather than another question? Besides which Tony are you trying to tell me that nothing will change with regards freedom of movement from the EU to Great Britain? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted June 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) I am struggling with all this. I voted remain as I think the EU despite many faults gives the average Joe a number of protections, I thought the risks were way too great in coming out given there was no idea by those campaigning for out as to what would happen and also because this is now letting in the nastier side of the Tory mob. Those of us who voted remain knew exactly what we were getting. I get the impression that a significant proportion of those that voted out don't have a clue what they have voted for other than some perceived idea of getting their country back. Even if that were the case then they have given it wholly to the likes of Johnson and Gove to mould. Many of those that voted out, after they have come down from the euphoria of celebrating winning but not knowing what they have won, will soon wake up to the reality of what they voted for and not like it. Unfortunately we will all have to suffer the consequences as I anticipate plenty of pain ahead and no happy ending to all this for the vast majority of us. Edited June 24, 2016 by markavfc40 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimmyJimmer Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 57 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: In fairness to my above comment, I've only just seen the recovery that the FTSE made. That's one hell of a charge, let's hope this mornings bottom out was just Maybe, just maybe, you might be overreacting a little. Maybe there might not be a recession & we can also have immigration, & still go on holiday to europe & still buy & sell to whomever we want to. Those scare tactics sure got to you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Awful lot of maybe's there bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeMcKenna Posted June 24, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: What's the issue with "European workers"? I don't get it. I have a Spanish housemate, a Croatian best friend and a Polish employee who all go to work, pay their taxes and live their economic lives right here in the UK without managing to upset me in the slightest. What gives them any less right to do so than an "English" person? What the **** is an "English" person anyway? 1st Century; Celts 6th - 9th Century; Saxons, Vikings 10th Century; Saxon, Vikings, French 16th Century: Saxons, French with a Dutch King 18th Century: Queen of German descent 21st Century: **** knows! But many display the intelligence of Neanderthals 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 P.S. If the recession hits and I have to lay anyone off, it won't be the Polish guy. Because 1) He's solid and 2) It might mean he has to uproot his family and move to another country. British jobs for Polish workers... Who's with me? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 19 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Do you really believe the things that you post? I see the Brexit also took away everyone's sense of humour oh well , enjoy your anger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: P.S. If the recession hits and I have to lay anyone off, it won't be the Polish guy. Because 1) He's solid and 2) It might mean he has to uproot his family and move to another country. British jobs for Polish workers... Who's with me? Out of curiosity...have you talked to him about the referendum? What was his thoughts on the result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: I see the Brexit also took away everyone's sense of humour oh well , enjoy your anger That was humour? Did you import your joke from a German? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 18 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Care to answer the question with an answer rather than another question? Besides which Tony are you trying to tell me that nothing will change with regards freedom of movement from the EU to Great Britain? No I'm expecting death squads knocking on people's doors at 5 am Meantime why not wait and see what happens instead of second guessing everything .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted June 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: That was humour? Did you import your joke from a German? No since this morning Germany put tariffs in place that make importing jokes too expensive so I have to write my own 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: No I'm expecting death squads knocking on people's doors at 5 am Meantime why not wait and see what happens instead of second guessing everything .... Public sector employees out at 5am? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, villakram said: Public sector employees out at 5am? "Please make sure you're home for extermination between 9-3, Monday-Friday, except for Wednesdays which is 9-12.If all residents can't fit in to a single wheelie bin, the leftover ones will be left on the street." Edited June 24, 2016 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: No I'm expecting death squads knocking on people's doors at 5 am Meantime why not wait and see what happens instead of second guessing everything .... So you've about as much of a clue what will happen as Boris Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) well i've stayed fairly non vocal before the referendum, mostly because i had a very personal interest in it is very likely the company (a german owned one) i work for will relocate to a EU member state, the question was asked of directors leading up to the brexit vote and they were very candid and honest in their answers. In the very likely event they do follow through with this i've got about 2 years at most to find another job, I'm aware of only one other indusrty competitor within the UK but theyre foreign owned as well so i have no idea on their plans to remain, I'm probably looking at about a 30% pay cut looking at the type of jobs on offer in related industries, loos like even if the management training and position i had been offered is still on offer,post brexit which is unlikely i might be better off not taking it. not blaming anyone for how they have voted, not feeling particlarly sorry for myself, but spent the day trying to work some things out and try to plan for the future so that in the likely event of the above happening i can make the best of it Edited June 25, 2016 by mockingbird_franklin errors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Pilchard said: Out of curiosity...have you talked to him about the referendum? What was his thoughts on the result? Confusion, mostly. Fear. He has no idea what will happen in the short, medium or long term. I have promised him I will do what I can to help should the 5am death squads visit. Apparently though there will be an "amnesty" for those who have had the audacity to enter the UK legally to work up until now, which is nice of them. My Croatian friend is talking of leaving. She grew up during the war over there, she's had enough of living in countries where she's told she's not welcome. Edited June 24, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Explain to me then why this is worth it. I'm expecting to have to lay off two members of staff within the month Unless you're David Cameron I think you might be over-reacting slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) 38 minutes ago, villakram said: Very interesting demographics charts here in the FT live blog, unfortunately the full blog posting is behind their paywall. http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/liveblogs/2016-06-24/#5848624949da48ad06f93fcf903d4c77 No passport --> statistically more likely to vote leave No degree --> statistically more likely to vote to leave Old person --> statistically more likely to vote to leave "Areas with high numbers of degree-educated people tended to vote Remain " I see. So London, Scotland and half of N Ireland is where all the brains are? Edited June 24, 2016 by BigJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) I wasn't sure what way to vote for a long time as I hadn't actually put any thought or research into it, I changed that over the last few days and came to the conclusion that voting to remain was the best thing to do IMO. I spoke to a number of my clients, who are the owners and majority shareholdings of some of the biggest companies in the UK for their views and the vast majority of them, were voting to remain as being part of the EU is a huge boon for their businesses and allowed them to expand and grow and create more jobs. These are people who I respect. Even down the politicians campaigning, the ones pushing the leave vote are ones I dislike more than the remain ones! Everything was telling me that remain was the sensible choice for the country. I was confident last night we would remain so to wake to the news this morning was a shock. The atmosphere at work today was very restless. Some of the people who voted out even said they now aren't sure if they made the right decision, Well, too late Buster! Its going to be a challenging time but I think the decision is the wrong one. A sad day Edited June 24, 2016 by Xela 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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