ml1dch Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, PieFacE said: Interesting if true.... Hmm. I'm pretty sceptical. I'd be amazed if the other 27 wanted there to still be confusion one way or the other by the time Multiannual Financial Framework 2021–2027 needs to be decided, which is next summer. So nine? Sure. 9-12? makes no sense at all from the EU side. Also, while it's not impossible that a random guy off Twitter is going to break the news ahead of the hundreds of journalists based in either Brussels or one of the countries making that decision... I think I'd still be taking it with a pinch of salt. Edited October 14, 2019 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Hmm. I'm pretty sceptical. I'd be amazed if the other 27 wanted there to still be confusion one way or the other by the time Multiannual Financial Framework 2021–2027 needs to be decided, which is next summer. So nine? Sure. 9-12? makes no sense at all from the EU side. Also, while it's not impossible that a random guy off Twitter is going to break the news ahead of the hundreds of journalists based in either Brussels or one of the countries making that decision... I think I'd still be taking it with a pinch of salt. How much money will we pay in over the next 12 months if its true? £40b? £50b? Might take the sting out of the "confusion". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 truly fascinating how a number on a big red bus has stuck in the psyche so so much more than 3 years of debunking it as a lie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Genie said: How much money will we pay in over the next 12 months if its true? £40b? £50b? Might take the sting out of the "confusion". We get a huge amount of that back in regional EU grants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: truly fascinating how a number on a big red bus has stuck in the psyche so so much more than 3 years of debunking it as a lie Call me Dave really should be locked up for not nipping that in the bud. DC -> I want to make it clear, there will be no extra money for the NHS or other public service as a result of leaving the EU. The economic forecasts are that after leaving the EU we'll have less money than today, so promises of huge injections of money as a direct result of leaving the EU are completely infeasible. That would have done the trick if he'd have said it 10 times. Edited October 14, 2019 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Genie said: What'll probably happen is everyone will treat it like a high school project and do nothing on it for 11 of the 12 months then rush the submission. Nothing will surprise me with Brexit anymore, even if Cumming's anounced a new (Trump recommended) Brexit negotiator all the way from the US called Damien Thorne. It's almost like watching a TV show in a way now, you have to admit, the writings great and we are all hooked. In many ways it's a shame it's real. Edited October 14, 2019 by Amsterdam_Neil_D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 14, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted October 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: truly fascinating how a number on a big red bus has stuck in the psyche so so much more than 3 years of debunking it as a lie Not really, IMO. Regardless of the amount, "we pay them money" is the bit that's stuck and the throbbers use to claim their funny, throbby claims - they need us more than we need them...etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, Genie said: That would have done the trick if he'd have said it 10 times. Wouldn't that have just summoned the Candyman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Wouldn't that have just summoned the Candyman ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 14, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: Wouldn't that have just summoned the Candyman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 14, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 14, 2019 ANyone mentioned this yet? Quote Jeremy Corbyn has privately told allies that he will step aside and allow someone else to become prime minister if Boris Johnson is forced from power. Sources say the Labour leader has concluded that he would not win the support needed to lead a government of national unity. Corbyn has signalled to allies that he might support another candidate as long as it is not a Labour or Conservative MP. Thunderer (paywalled) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Very clever to specify Conservative MP as technically this still gives Jo Swinson a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Bercow to the rescue? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 hours ago, bickster said: ANyone mentioned this yet? Thunderer (paywalled) Isn’t McDonnell plotting against him ? can’t believe Watson will stand idle whilst everything he’s plotted for is snatched away from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 The SNP must be on quite the tightrope tactically. They want to be seen to be trying really hard to fix Brexit and offer solutions to the other remain or undecided parties. But by the same token, they must be able to see that their best prospect is with a Tory Westminster getting a hard Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) Out of interest? Can criminals travel around the EU freely without additional checks? Just watching the game tonight and it’s scary to think these Nazi thugs that are proud to be shown on international Tv saluting can enter another country in the EU just using a passport. Edited October 14, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 14, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, tonyh29 said: Isn’t McDonnell plotting against him ? can’t believe Watson will stand idle whilst everything he’s plotted for is snatched away from him Methinks you have the wrong end of the stick. It’s about Bercow leading a GoNU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 14, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Out of interest? Can criminals travel around the EU freely without additional checks? Just watching the game tonight and it’s scary to think these Nazi thugs that are proud to be shown on international Tv saluting can enter another country in the EU just using a passport. Do you mean criminals avoiding capture or those that have done their time? There’s usually a whole heap of bollocks talked about “criminals” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Do you mean criminals avoiding capture or those that have done their time? There’s usually a whole heap of bollocks talked about “criminals” Both I guess. Just doing a bit of reading up on it seems there are measure in place to refuse entry to people with criminal records on a case by case basis but it’s not implemented very well. No surprise there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Both I guess. Just doing a bit of reading up on it seems there are measure in place to refuse entry to people with criminal records on a case by case basis but it’s not implemented very well. No surprise there. Well the blame for that would lay at the door of the UK border force 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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