mockingbird_franklin Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 strangely by the time we have negotiated out exit from the EU, it might not actually exist as we know it, we could be the first domino. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just now, Demitri_C said: Davkaus you really believe that is the SOLE reason they want to leave? They been gagging for a excuse to get the UK now they have it, and we gave it to them ourselves. They had a referendum just 2 years ago and voted to stay in? If they go of course this will be the reason, and who could blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just a note about Scotland / independence / EU membership. Spain have already said they could refuse to acknowledge Scotland as a separate country. Becoming their own EU members could become interesting! clicky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted June 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: stick it in my ar... ? Come again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, pas5898 said: Just a note about Scotland / independence / EU membership. Spain have already said they could refuse to acknowledge Scotland as a separate country. Becoming their own EU members could become interesting! clicky Ah now that is interesting, although i cant see them being rejected. Be interested to see if they are willing to take the euro though. thank god we never took the euro about now, we would be in chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Davkaus you really believe that is the SOLE reason they want to leave? They been gagging for a excuse to get the UK now they have it, and we gave it to them ourselves. Of course, there's a minority that will always want to leave, no matter what we do. But we've just given a huge number of Scots who were either ambivalent or full on Unionists a reason to want to leave the UK, when it was pretty much a settled matter. This is a big enough change that I can't blame them for wanting to revisit the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, LondonLax said: They had a referendum just 2 years ago and voted to stay in? If they go of course this will be the reason, and who could blame them. Now we are not in the UK they definitely will vote out, and like you i dont blame them now. They are see the benefits of being the EU unlike more than half of our population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Ah now that is interesting, although i cant see them being rejected. Be interested to see if they are willing to take the euro though. thank god we never took the euro about now, we would be in chaos Spain will properly throw their toys out of the pram if Scotland applied for membership. It essentially gives more power and a green light for Baque and Catalonian independence. Edited June 24, 2016 by pas5898 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 26 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: the phrase imbeciles has been branded around a lot this week , it's safe to say from the evidence it isn't exclusive to one side The number of imbeciles for leave vs the number for remain is a bit like Sky Sports vs BT when it come to Prem football these days. No longer exclusive, but still a huge majority. You can see from the outputs who turned this in leave's favour and it wasn't well educated working people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, LondonLax said: They had a referendum just 2 years ago and voted to stay in? If they go of course this will be the reason, and who could blame them. and just think , we wont have to send them money to prop up their economy when the go skint But the over riding issue ( as I understand it) why they rejected it last time was they felt it was better together in the UK .. not better together as in the EU ... they will also have to adopt the Euro (no if's or but's them is the EU rules ) which as the political expert on the radio said this morning is about as appealing to the Scots as cup of cold sick I'm sure they would have liked both , but the vote last night was about the EU and shouldn't be confused with a desire for the Scottish people to become independent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RimmyJimmer Posted June 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2016 I voted tory at the last general election and was labelled toffee nosed, elitist, rich public schoolboy who was out for himself. I voted out of europe and I'm labelled a racist, working class, ill-educated, ignorant imbecile. Well guess what....I'm neither. There's a vast middle ground out there if you care to listen 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 SNP may paradoxically have it tougher this time if the use of the Sterling is off the table and they have to convince the people to use the euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just now, jon_c said: Ladies and gentlemen, our new cabinet. Half pissing myself, half wondering about having a whip-round and hiring an assassin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Of course the sticking point for Scotland may well be if they'd even be able to join the EU, even if they made the concession of taking the Euro. Spain still won't be keen on allowing Scotland to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, RimmyJimmer said: I voted tory at the last general election and was labelled toffee nosed, elitist, rich public schoolboy who was out for himself. I voted out of europe and I'm labelled a racist, working class, ill-educated, ignorant imbecile. Well guess what....I'm neither. There's a vast middle ground out there if you care to listen well , I can see the flaw in your argument right there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, wazzap24 said: Half pissing myself, half wondering about having a whip-round and hiring an assassin. not a third pissing yourself , a third wondering about a whip round and a third wondering how someone not in the Tory party or elected to parliament ended up in a Tory cabinet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: not a third pissing yourself , a third wondering about a whip round and a third wondering how someone not in the Tory party or elected to parliament ended up in a Tory cabinet ? Give them a seat in the House of Lords? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: not a third pissing yourself , a third wondering about a whip round and a third wondering how someone not in the Tory party or elected to parliament ended up in a Tory cabinet ? I'm not 100% sure Tony, but I think the creator of the meme and Jon might have been having a bit of a laugh with it. Only leave voters would believe they will be actual members of cabinet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The one positive for me from this shit show is at least Farage and UKIP can **** off now, they literally have no reason for existing anymore. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted June 24, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: The one positive for me from this shit show is at least Farage and UKIP can **** off now, they literally have no reason for existing anymore. They won't. When the General Election happens next year (because it will) they will argue that they are the only true voice to negotiate the terms of the leave. Given that its clear that the Labour vote has gone to Leave and consequentially UKIP; I can see that there will be a hung parliament again and Tories will probably have to use UKIP to keep them in power. So that "Straight Outta Europe" poster and any comparison to the future cabinet may be closer to the truth than you think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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