Chindie Posted October 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Kate Hoey is a gaping chasm. The country would celebrate if she fell into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Quote Donald Trump announces his plan to negotiate a free trade deal with the UK after Brexit. Talks can begin in 2021, once the Brexit transition period is over, a letter to US Congress states. However, Trump’s administration says the UK must abandon “unjustified” food standards before a wide-ranging deal between the two economies can be agreed. MPs, charities and health campaigners are worried that the US will demand UK market access for food products of a lower standard than what the UK currently accepts. Chlorine-washed chicken, hormone-injected beef and food containing maggots, rat-hair and mould are just some of the imports post-Brexit Britain could receive from the US. Business Insider Ooh, there's a surprise. Lot's of filthy lobbying on this side of the pond to aid the dickhead's cause. We've seen what clueless lying pricks they are, right here on VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2018 Shock horror at the government trying to force through a take it or leave it vote on any agreed exit deal. They were always going to do this and everyone knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 16 hours ago, Chindie said: Also hilarious (read: horrifying) to see 6 ministers reported to be seeking legal clarification of the implications of the exit deal, with Michael Gove noted as claiming to have been misled over the backstop for instance. Didn't they **** read any of the proposals? Also, have a stab at who the 6 are. Hint - they're amongst the brightest of the cabinet. Snigger. So just to be clear, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, Esther McVey et al, didn't really understand what they'd signed up for and want the option to change their mind on it? Is that basically the gist? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just now, ml1dch said: So just to be clear, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, Esther McVey et al, didn't really understand what they'd signed up for and want the option to change their mind on it? Is that basically the gist? ... >_> ... ...N-Noooo? ... *runs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2018 In fairness I wouldn't expect Leadsom or McVey to understand the instructions on making a Pot Noodle so you can't expect too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chindie said: ... >_> ... ...N-Noooo? ... *runs* I was trying to do one of those there allegory things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Thick MPs... why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 18, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just now, StefanAVFC said: Thick MPs... why Thick people vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, bickster said: Thick people vote I guess they are representative in that regard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2018 There's going to be a transition period extension that isn't going to happen and is only not being discussed because when it was discussed nobody brought it up when it was brought up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post limpid Posted October 18, 2018 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2018 9 hours ago, bickster said: Thick people vote Half of all people are thicker then the average person. Then combine that with an education system increasingly used (by religions) to stop people asking questions of authority figures and you end up with people voting for whoever says things that make them feel good, even when it's against their best interests. Democracy only works when the populace is educated. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, limpid said: Half of all people are thicker then the average person. Then combine that with an education system increasingly used (by religions) to stop people asking questions of authority figures and you end up with people voting for whoever says things that make them feel good, even when it's against their best interests. Democracy only works when the populace is educated. If only those with above average intelligence were allowed to vote. Would there ever have been a Labour government in British history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted October 18, 2018 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, WhatAboutTheFinish said: If only those with above average intelligence were allowed to vote. Would there ever have been a Labour government in British history? Quote Education: The higher the qualification, the higher Labour’s vote share Alongside age, education has become one of the key electoral demographic dividing lines. We saw it was a huge factor in the EU referendum campaign and, after the last general election, we made sure we accounted for qualifications in our methodology. This election will be no different. While the Conservatives lead amongst all educational groupings, their vote share decrease for every extra qualification a voter has, whilst the Labour and Lib Dem vote share increases. Amongst those with no formal qualifications, the Conservative lead by 35%. But when it comes to those with a degree, the Tory lead falls to 8%. Education also shapes other parties’ vote shares. UKIP also struggles amongst highly educated voters, polling four times higher amongst those with no formal qualifications compared to those with a degree. YouGov - Last Election 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, bickster said: YouGov - Last Election So those with a degree; Conservative 36% Labour 28% Liberal 19% What’s your point? Same question, eradicate those with a below average education, would Labour have ever won a general election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, WhatAboutTheFinish said: eradicate those with a below average education Selective quoting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 18, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, WhatAboutTheFinish said: What’s your point? I wasn't aware I'd made an actual point but if you need me to elaborate on my post in order to gain a greater understanding... Your original statement contains an inference that the lower a persons intelligence the more likely they are to vote Labour, I offered some evidence to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 39 minutes ago, WhatAboutTheFinish said: So those with a degree; Conservative 36% Labour 28% Liberal 19% What’s your point? Same question, eradicate those with a below average education, would Labour have ever won a general election? It's certainly arguable. It's pretty inarguable that we wouldn't be embarking on the subject of this thread though, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, bickster said: I wasn't aware I'd made an actual point but if you need me to elaborate on my post in order to gain a greater understanding... Your original statement contains an inference that the lower a persons intelligence the more likely they are to vote Labour, I offered some evidence to the contrary. Thanks for the clarification to help my understanding. I thought I’d made a point about what was required for Labour to win an election and you’d answered it by quoting stats from an election they lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, ml1dch said: It's certainly arguable. It's pretty inarguable that we wouldn't be embarking on the subject of this thread though, isn't it? Is it arguable? Which was the year Labour would have won election without the working class vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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