StefanAVFC Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: In the coming years we could even see more countries wanting to leave. Which? And by what means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: Which? And by what means? I don’t know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don’t know Then why say it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, Genie said: I think it could be predicted to a fairly accurate degree. Leaving the EU is a step into the unknown with a best case scenario being only as good as remaining. Yeah but, but, 'sovereignty'... unelected bureaucrats ..... British Empire,....glory days... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Then why say it? Because who knows what the future could bring! But on a serious note I’ve just got in to work so will try and send a proper reply later on. Edited October 11, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted October 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2019 Can't link the article as its behind a paywall, however the FT are suggesting that Boris has made concessions on the Customs issue, which is the only way I can see Ireland acting in the way they are... So whilst he may end up with Europe on his side, he may lose more in parliament... Its daft as if he (and May) tacked on a confirmatory vote to the deal they would probably get the deal through parliament (enough Labour MPs in leave areas to push through I reckon, hell, even Lib Dems may support if Remain on the ballot). The only reason that they haven't done that is that all signs point to remain winning that vote this time (though they did say that last time...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Because who knows what the future could bring! But on a serious note I’ve just got in to work so will try and send a proper reply later on. Hopefully you'll have some more extensive comments later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Which? And by what means? Poland , they don't like English people going over there stealing their jobs and women 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, cyrusr said: Can't link the article as its behind a paywall, however the FT are suggesting that Boris has made concessions on the Customs issue, which is the only way I can see Ireland acting in the way they are... So whilst he may end up with Europe on his side, he may lose more in parliament... Its daft as if he (and May) tacked on a confirmatory vote to the deal they would probably get the deal through parliament (enough Labour MPs in leave areas to push through I reckon, hell, even Lib Dems may support if Remain on the ballot). The only reason that they haven't done that is that all signs point to remain winning that vote this time (though they did say that last time...). Its an interesting one as i don't see any deal getting through parliament , Corbyn covets the top job, no way is he going to gift Boris a 5 year term by voting with any deal , he needs the Johnson gambit to play out , defying parliament or dead in a ditch ... but equally if he's seen as the man that "blocks Brexit" it could harm in any upcoming election. The Lib Dems we know will vote against it , they don't have to worry so much , they have Swinson who already harms any chance they have in the next election. comes down to the Tory rebels and how many labour MP's will vote against their party presumably ..assuming the obvious of course, that the EU & UK actually come up with an agreed deal SNP we know will vote it down Edited October 11, 2019 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 11, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Corbyn ... if he's seen as the man that "blocks Brexit" it could harm in any upcoming election. The only things that harm Corbyn in any upcoming election is Corbyn, Unions and the current state of the Labour Party. Him blocking Brexit can only really improve his current low standing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Corbyn has scored more own goals than Trevor Sinclair when it comes to the key issues. He's had the most incompetent Tory party in it's history in front of him and the best he can do is match their incompetence. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2019 7 hours ago, avfcDJ said: I don't advocate for any kind of violence but I could make an exception in her case. Bloody hell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: I don't advocate for any kind of violence but I could make an exception in her case. Bloody hell. We're a nation of thick words removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted October 11, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2019 When ignorance and confidence unite... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 11, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: We're a nation of thick words removed. We're a nation where thick words removed seem to get in the Question Time audience and ask questions with great ease 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: When ignorance and confidence unite... Dunning-Kruger effect personified. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, bickster said: We're a nation where thick words removed seem to get in the Question Time audience and ask questions with great ease More plants than a garden centre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 11, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2019 Just now, tonyh29 said: More plants than a garden centre Sign outside the Question Time Studio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Corbyn has scored more own goals than Trevor Sinclair when it comes to the key issues. Frank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I love the expression I first read on here, and it is so fitting. Thick as mince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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