a m ole Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: We need to keep it on the table cause the EU are shitting themselves we may actually go that way. If we take it off the table the EU will have the upper hand to carry on blackmailing us into this shit deal. LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 Sabine Weyand is Barnier's right-hand woman, she's worth listening to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peterms Posted March 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: We need to keep it on the table cause the EU are shitting themselves we may actually go that way. If we take it off the table the EU will have the upper hand to carry on blackmailing us into this shit deal. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Gove's speech today underlines why he shouldn't be considered for any really senior office. Given the paucity of talent in the pool nowadays, he is apparently 2nd/3rd favourite to be the next Prime Minister. What a shameful state we are in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Spelman, according to the BBC News, has pulled her backing for her own amendment - largely, it seems, because the government was going to whip against it. By the account of the bod just on, it can still be moved by someone else. I wonder whether someone on the Labour side will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, foreveryoung said: We need to keep it on the table cause the EU are shitting themselves we may actually go that way. If we take it off the table the EU will have the upper hand to carry on blackmailing us into this shit deal. How are they blackmailing us? Genuine question as I can't add up your logic there. Surely if they're "shitting themselves" about the prospect of a no deal and we're keeping it on the table it's us blackmailing them... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, snowychap said: Spelman, according to the BBC News, has pulled her backing for her own amendment - largely, it seems, because the government was going to whip against it. By the account of the bod just on, it can still be moved by someone else. I wonder whether someone on the Labour side will do that. This is the kind of thing to bear in mind when you chuck all your eggs in the 'parliament is rational' basket. Sometimes it is rational with a different viewpoint. And sometimes it's not rational at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Interesting (and highly explosive) suggestion that Bercow might rule that the same deal can't be brought back for a 3rd vote The following extract from Erskin May is doing the rounds to suggest that what May is doing shouldn't be allowed. Quote A motion or an amendment which is the same, in substance, as a question which has been decided during a session may not be brought forward again during that same session Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: Interesting (and highly explosive) suggestion that Bercow might rule that the same deal can't be brought back for a 3rd vote The following extract from Erskin May is doing the rounds to suggest that what May is doing shouldn't be allowed. Now that would be hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, snowychap said: Spelman, according to the BBC News, has pulled her backing for her own amendment - largely, it seems, because the government was going to whip against it. By the account of the bod just on, it can still be moved by someone else. I wonder whether someone on the Labour side will do that. She has just said she intended to withdraw it but Bercow corrected her by saying that it can't be withdrawn. She may choose not to move it but it can still be moved by anyone else who was a signatory to it so watch this space on that. Edited March 13, 2019 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Brexit timescale, reassessed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, snowychap said: Gove's speech today underlines why he shouldn't be considered for any really senior office. Given the paucity of talent in the pool nowadays, he is apparently 2nd/3rd favourite to be the next Prime Minister. What a shameful state we are in. He made Dick Cheney proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Nice to see Bambos get a run out again as a teller. Cracking name that - Bambos Charalambous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 So about 15 minutes until this amendment is dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) holy shit that was close, AYE will that make chances of No No Deal vote less likely? Edited March 13, 2019 by a m ole trying to clarify that second sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chindie said: So about 15 minutes until this amendment is dead? Government lose the vote by 4. 312 v 308. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 hours ago, tonyh29 said: but Brexit wont go away , it may be postponed 5 - 10 years whilst parliament splits more along remain and leave parties. I'm not sure that's the case, for example, the money that's in part behind Brexit tried TTiP first and it got rejected in the accidental democracy of Brussels bureaucracy. If they fail with Brexit, they'll look for a different way to dismantle European and UK regulation and trading strength to open them up for US corporate interest. I think Brexit will go away and the various interests behind it will just look for different ways to get what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 13, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: holy shit that was close, AYE will that make chances of No No Deal vote less likely? despite what it says, no deal is still what happens on March 29th unless something like a deal supersedes it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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