Wainy316 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Rabid Brexiteers pointing to every negative article as 'Project Fear'. What would be the point in exaggerating facts to scare the public? There's no referendum to influence anymore, the morons! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2019 You'd think they'd be shouting all their successes from the rooftops but er... There aren't any. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Chindie said: Been happening for months. EU punishment narrative, EU negotiating in bad faith... Also has an added stabbed in the back narrative for shits and giggles too. Some of the comments online to this story are downright scary... Just a select few that tickled me. "We don't need them" - Tell that to their employees "There's only one reason a French company has its wings made here. It's because it can't make them in France." - That's right. I'm sure the French are incapable of manufacturing an aircraft wing. Bravo "Yes the uncertainty is a disgrace - and why? Because those who refuse to accept they lost have undermined the result and the Govt, who have been incompetent in negotiations." - Of course! It's all our fault you voted to overturn 40 years of British trade policy and thought there'd be no consequences "How dare this arrogant company undermine our democracy and the will of its people." - Yes, how dare they attempt protect their shareholders interests. It's just not capitalism...oh wait... "Good luck to Airbus finding a skilled workforce that they would need to replace the UK based service!!" - I'm sure those incapable foreigners are capable of making items other than cheese and wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: Some of the comments online to this story are downright scary... Just a select few that tickled me. "We don't need them" - Tell that to their employees "There's only one reason a French company has its wings made here. It's because it can't make them in France." - That's right. I'm sure the French are incapable of manufacturing an aircraft wing. Bravo "Yes the uncertainty is a disgrace - and why? Because those who refuse to accept they lost have undermined the result and the Govt, who have been incompetent in negotiations." - Of course! It's all our fault you voted to overturn 40 years of British trade policy and thought there'd be no consequences "How dare this arrogant company undermine our democracy and the will of its people." - Yes, how dare they attempt protect their shareholders interests. It's just not capitalism...oh wait... "Good luck to Airbus finding a skilled workforce that they would need to replace the UK based service!!" - I'm sure those incapable foreigners are capable of making items other than cheese and wine. Usual stuff. As was said in the podcast I mentioned earlier - there's nothing unique about the soil in England that means companies are forced to operate here and only here, there's nothing special about the water in England that makes it a business environment that can't be replicated elsewhere if it becomes commercially prudent to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: It makes perfect sense, they're thick I mean, people who don't realise that the companies they work for are a result of the partnership of the UK/EU, deserve everything they get. These will be the people driving around in decent cars, living in their 400 grand houses they bought for 10k in the 90s. **** em They're not thick though. That's why it's so frustrating. There's 7 of us in our corner. Everyone's got degrees. 2 are qualified solicitors. One is a former HMRC employee and is an "expert" on compliance and tariffs and all that (it's his job). There is one grumpy old gammon baby boomer so I'd expect it from him. But they're all pro brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 24, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: They're not thick though 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Everyone's got degrees. I think you've drawn too much of a connection here 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 24, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: They're not thick though. That's why it's so frustrating. Many aren't (generally I mean). But they are often uninformed. The vast vast majority of those who are informed consider leaving to be a bad idea. Not all, but most. Of the uninformed, the divide is the opposite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, bickster said: Airbus saying it may be forced to leave UK in a No Deal situation. Bloomberg (More on Link) Nah. It's be because of diesel. Or China. Or Amazon. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 24, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 24, 2019 Ooops, over to you Mrs May, what say ye? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, blandy said: Many aren't (generally I mean). But they are often uninformed. The vast vast majority of those who are informed consider leaving to be a bad idea. Not all, but most. Of the uninformed, the divide is the opposite. Whenever I try to inform them I just get the usual. "wellll nobody really knows what will happen" YES THEY DO! They are literally telling you what will (most likely) happen. I hate people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 24, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 24, 2019 Further info on what Richard Harrington said today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Chindie said: You'd think they'd be shouting all their successes from the rooftops but er... There aren't any. Maybe they can stand in the loft ? (Safer than standing on the roof especially if they are holding a flag) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: Nah. It's be because of diesel. Or China. Or Amazon. Or something. They'll probably have to move the jobs to one of their American or Chinese plants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, desensitized43 said: Unfortunately, I think some of those people are going to need to feel the pain before they realise what they've done. They won't though. They'll blame the EU, or the government for not getting us a good deal, or probably the people who wanted to stay. They like doing that. They'll never admit that they made the wrong choice, that's one of the most frustrating parts. Guy next to me just keeps saying "it's Y2K all over again. Load of fuss about nothing. It'll be fine" He works for me. I might sack him and blame the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2019 The Y2K analogy is **** brainless. Y2K was less of a thing because for years prior experts and businesses worked to prevent it being a thing. With Brexit, the experts and businesses are on the sidelines pointing out all the issues while being unable to do anything about it, whilst the people in control are too busy worrying about other aspects of the thing to do anything about it. And idiots all over decry the experts as heretics and actively try to oppose them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, Chindie said: The Y2K analogy is **** brainless. Y2K was less of a thing because for years prior experts and businesses worked to prevent it being a thing. With Brexit, the experts and businesses are on the sidelines pointing out all the issues while being unable to do anything about it, whilst the people in control are too busy worrying about other aspects of the thing to do anything about it. And idiots all over decry the experts as heretics and actively try to oppose them. This is always my response, more or less. It falls on deaf ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Chindie said: The Y2K analogy is **** brainless. Y2K was less of a thing because for years prior experts and businesses worked to prevent it being a thing. With Brexit, the experts and businesses are on the sidelines pointing out all the issues while being unable to do anything about it, whilst the people in control are too busy worrying about other aspects of the thing to do anything about it. And idiots all over decry the experts as heretics and actively try to oppose them. Not to mention the whole Y2K thing cost over $350 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2019 High Lord Arch Heretic Ivan Rogers dismantles the Brexit shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Chindie said: High Lord Arch Heretic Ivan Rogers dismantles the Brexit shambles. The transcript is on the Spectator website as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 24, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, Chindie said: The Y2K analogy is **** brainless. Y2K was less of a thing because for years prior experts and businesses worked to prevent it being a thing. With Brexit, the experts and businesses are on the sidelines pointing out all the issues while being unable to do anything about it, whilst the people in control are too busy worrying about other aspects of the thing to do anything about it. And idiots all over decry the experts as heretics and actively try to oppose them. The word expert is a dog whistle for switch off brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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