peterms Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Apparently Mrs May has just been on LBC, discussing the importance of collective Cabinet responsibility to see them through their current difficulties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 9 hours ago, villarocker said: Leaving won't happen. The elite won't want to lose their power and ways to sneak money out of the country via their European colleagues. All this messing around is just part of the ply to fail what the majority of voters in the referendum asked for. The way it's all going it wouldn't surprise me if the Queen jacked it all in, gave Charlie the reigns and her last act as custodian to be the dissolvement of parliament. What are your views on the UK's part in Global tax evasion and money laundering? Europe is taking steps to harmonise Corporate tax issues over the next couple of years. Why do you think the likes of the hedge fund owners, the traitor Banks and Putin want us to leave? Putin's friends have used the likes of KPMG to rob Russia blind and they want to continue to do so. We're all getting mugged. Quote Hedge fund moguls backed Leave, and now fear it won't happen - but they’re still the real winners in Brexit roulette The major Brexiteers from the finance world are likely to profit from Brexit The big players include Jeremy Hosking, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Jim Mellon All have been hedging their bets to shield themselves from financial harm Thisismoney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 16, 2018 47 minutes ago, peterms said: Apparently Mrs May has just been on LBC, discussing the importance of collective Cabinet responsibility to see them through their current difficulties. and once they hit dry land... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: Unity Governments are pretty sensible if you have a common goal with a defined purpose, like "we must defeat the French" Well, there you go then! You're right though, adding the talents of Abbott and McDonnell to a cabinet with Hammond in it. Good lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Risso said: Well, there you go then! You're right though, adding the talents of Abbott and McDonnell to a cabinet with Hammond in it. Good lord. At least with Corbyn aboard they might not need an atlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 16, 2018 Gove staying on in Government to get the best Brexit deal possible by not accepting the position of Brexit minister Round and round we go on another squared circle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyrusr Posted November 16, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, bickster said: Gove staying on in Government to get the best Brexit deal possible by not accepting the position of Brexit minister Round and round we go on another squared circle The only reason that Gove has not resigned is that he thinks it in best political interests not to resign. He has no interest in what’s best for the country whatsoever. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, cyrusr said: The only reason that Gove has not resigned is that he thinks it in best political interests not to resign. He has no interest in what’s best for the country whatsoever. Oh yes, I'm 100% in agreement with that (He's not alone) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted November 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Oh yes, I'm 100% in agreement with that (He's not alone) Definitely! I would guess approximately 650 of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post snowychap Posted November 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, cyrusr said: The only reason that Gove has not resigned is that he thinks it in best political interests not to resign. He has no interest in what’s best for the country whatsoever. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 16, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, cyrusr said: Definitely! I would guess approximately 650 of them? 642 (giving the speaker the benefit of doubt and Sinn Fein credit for not turning up) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted November 16, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2018 9 hours ago, LondonLax said: There should have been cross party consultation on what sort of Brexit deal the UK wanted. There should have been cross-party consultation on what Brexit would actually entail upfront, rather than a referendum. Indepth investigation involving Parliament, business leaders, trades unions, police and the military, local councils, environmentalists, etc. At that point, both parties should have had a pretty good idea on what their stance was. If the majority of their MPs had doubts, then no Brexit. If there was a clear party split, put it all in their manifestos and call a general election. But no. What did we get? A TV game show vote. Criminal. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I've been away for a couple of days and look what has happened. First up I am struggling to believe that we had the question "what lies" asked about the leave campaign. It was almost entirely lies. You would struggle to find any truth in any position they took. I don't have time to compile the main ones, but thankfully we have journalists that can be bothered to document them, so here is the top 11 (and that does not even include the big red bus bs) Brexit lies documented and ranked. Quote 11 Brexit promises the government quietly dropped Leaving aside the £350m for the NHS, Brexit has promised quick and easy trade deals with the EU and the rest of the world, an end to ECJ jurisdiction and free movement, and British control of North Sea fishing. None of this has come to pass. Here are 11 key abandoned claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2018 Unfortunately, Leave voters have the same ostrich mentality as Trump supporters. No matter how overwhelming the the evidence is that they've been duped, they will stubbornly stick to (and even harden) their stance, rather than admit they were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, cyrusr said: The only reason that Gove has not resigned is that he thinks it in best political interests not to resign. He has no interest in what’s best for the country whatsoever. If you found yourself cast adrift in a small boat with Michael Gove, not enough food and water, and a sharp knife, however tired you became, would you fall asleep? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, peterms said: If you found yourself cast adrift in a small boat with Michael Gove, not enough food and water, and a sharp knife, however tired you became, would you fall asleep? Sure I would. I'd sleep like a baby. Once I'd dismembered Lord Snooty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Sure I would. I'd sleep like a baby. Once I'd dismembered Lord Snooty. So Jacob Wreath-Smug would be there as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, peterms said: So Jacob Wreath-Smug would be there as well? This is like a vengeance movie - One at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Xann said: This is like a vengeance movie - One at a time. Nonsense. It's just robust but respectful exchanges of views between colleagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, ml1dch said: Eh? What you said has been the position of the majority of posters on this thread for as long as I can remember. Nothing will change apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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