dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Hey all. Simple enough question, when is the right time to protest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 After we appointed McLeish IMO there isn't a right time You can cheer, you can stay away, you can stop your feet, you can chant our owner is a word removed, you can call everyone a word removed as they get on a bus, you can spray something on your bed sheets None of it matters The guy at the top does not care 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 23, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2016 15 minutes ago, villa4europe said: After we appointed McLeish IMO there isn't a right time You can cheer, you can stay away, you can stop your feet, you can chant our owner is a word removed, you can call everyone a word removed as they get on a bus, you can spray something on your bed sheets None of it matters The guy at the top does not care You can walk out on the 74th minute... I get what you're saying. But is apathy really the answer? I'm sick to the **** high teeth, I need change or I'm done. I'm not going to give up yet, I can't. The club is in my blood and it's in my nature to fight. So where does that leave me? Give me a 0.1% chance that a protest will change *something* at the club in a positive way and I'm in 100%. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 About 3 years ago when we start being run like a Championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted February 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Bunnski said: About 3 years ago when we start being run like a Championship club. We can't go back in time mate unfortunately if we could I'd have gotten off my arse sooner and tried to support others trying to make a stand. We can only try to change the future and the sooner we do that the better so the answer for me is that the time to protest is now. Edited February 23, 2016 by markavfc40 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Now. Simple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I think a protest of some sort now is fine, but I'd worry that an in-game protest might be more counterproductive than it is productive, at the moment, whilst technically we still have a chance of survival. But then again all this talk !light have a positive affect on the team, I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Counter productive! If fans had walked out on 74 or protested in some other way during the Liverpool game how counter productive would it have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 The options are.After Never...thats just silly. Now.....The sooner we can get the message across the better. After relegation is confirmed....Then is the time for a stronger protest, eg witholding your hard earned whichever way you think is best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 The question is how does protest effect anything when the people in charge aren't accountable to the fans in anyway, shape, or form beyond vague notions of what an owner or board or playing staff should do as representatives of a community - though as football has effectively been ripped from the community and handed over to the world of high finance, this is no longer the case either. Any protest can only ever be a symbolic gesture and I suppose now is a good time for it as the club is in a dire situation. To show anger and unhappiness with the current situation is all that can be done at this point. I think long term fans either have to decide between accepting football as a product or reclaiming it as something more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Pity it's only happening now when relegation finally looks inevitable, but sadly apathy took over Villa years ago and fans just sat there and took every bit of crap thrown in their direction from the disgraceful Lerner. Where did all those pro-active fans go that used to pounce on Ellis when he as much broke wind? It's a sad state of affairs that we've let the humiliated of Villa over the last 6 seasons fester, but I fully support the walk out on 74. It's about time we remembered what a great club Aston Villa is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyblue Posted February 24, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2016 Leicester fan in peace, I'm not going to preach about what you should or shouldn't do. But what kept us up last season was the attitude the fans and in turn the players showed from the West Ham game on wards. Before that we'd been on an 8 game win less run, in those games you could sense the nerves and also anger in the crowd and that will translate to the players. Come the West Ham game there was almost a sense of "we're down", or "this is the last chance". It coincided with the owners providing the clappers (cringe cringe), yeah I know. But what they did was create some noise, they drowned out the negativity, players were no longer playing in silence or a negative atmosphere, with each mistake groaned and moaned at. The players seemed free of the pressure inside the stadium and the atmosphere grew as the fans saw the players responding to a positive backing. It grew game on game, and the rest is history. Without a shadow of doubt, the fans played a major part of survival. Personally, for me you're reaching the same point we were at and I think your best shot is with a united front. Of course you don't forget what's gone on at your place, with awful management from the top. But I think that could be shelved for a few months, I'm sure they know how you feel already. But backing the team at this moment, for me is your best shot. Create a wall of noise and a positive atmosphere, strange things can happen... the last year has shown me anything is possible. Good luck! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Our best shot at what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Our best shot at what? Survival, presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Just now, Rob182 said: Survival, presumably. I think if the people protesting had any hope left then there would be no protest for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, ChrisVillan said: I think if the people protesting had any hope left then there would be no protest for now. Absolutely this. Forget the maths, the squad is rotten. The club are waving the flag at all levels, this is NOTHING like Leicester of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I can see why to some and especially to non Villa fans, protests during games and home games at that, when the team is fighting for survival, might seem an absurd course of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyblue Posted February 24, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, ChrisVillan said: Our best shot at what? Staying in the league. As for losing hope, I know it's hard but until it's a mathematical impossibility then there should be some hope. We're proof in the pudding of that. I've got 3 or 4 mates who are Villa fans and I hope you do it for their sake. It could easily enough have been me right now as they tried to convert me as a kid. One of the first games I went to as a kid was a turgid 0-0 against Everton at your place. I think that made my mind up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Is the squad rotten though? We have a load of promising, young players with massive potential. The issue is that we have too many 'potential' talents and not enough Premier League standard. Instead of buying all 'potential' last summer, we could have swapped a few Veretouts for a couple of Johnny Evans. To me, the main thing we should be protesting about, is the lack of ambition and spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyblue Posted February 24, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Absolutely this. Forget the maths, the squad is rotten. The club are waving the flag at all levels, this is NOTHING like Leicester of last season. I appreciate the differences, but will it help them in any way having a hostile atmosphere? I know it's heart breaking to see people who don't give a shit from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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