mwj Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 TBH, with the new £75m asking price it comes into the realm of (outside) possibility. 10 000 fans * £7500 = £75m I wouldn't put it beyond the realms of possibility that we could find 10 000 fans worldwide with a bit of coin to throw at the club. Only problem is finding a figurehead as it would take massive amounts of coordination to get off the ground. Howard Hodgson? The next problem would be then what? There would be no money left for transfers or anything but at least the club would be the masters of their own destiny again. Nice idea anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Figurehead is easy Mervyn King and David Bernstein 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Surely it is more worthwhile, and financially easier, to emulate the likes of AFC Wimbledon or FC United? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2016 If this goes ahead, since I have no opposition Id like to formally throw my hat into the ring as chairman. ...failing that anything with an office! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I was saving for a deposit on a house but sure I would chuck away £10k on a football club hemorrhaging money. Push comes to shove I can sleep in my car. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Not a chance, I wouldn't support it, you're shitting yourself if you think that business model could operate at that level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I'm not sure if will ever be owned by the fans, unless the club sinks further down the leagues and goes into administration and after all that finally becomes affordable like Portsmouth. What I do think would work and would be an important step would be some form of membership that led to a Barca style body of delegates which would elect a board & chairman every five years or so. Essentially giving the supporters an active and tangible role in how the club is run. But I've no idea how to get that in place without owning the club. Any individual or group who buy us will want their own people and to pursue their own interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Will never work, ever. Not the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 To be fair we're also now only one relegation away from it being a journey into charted territory. That's a depressing thing in its own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 3 hours ago, mwj said: TBH, with the new £75m asking price it comes into the realm of (outside) possibility. 10 000 fans * £7500 = £75m I wouldn't put it beyond the realms of possibility that we could find 10 000 fans worldwide with a bit of coin to throw at the club. Only problem is finding a figurehead as it would take massive amounts of coordination to get off the ground. Howard Hodgson? The next problem would be then what? There would be no money left for transfers or anything but at least the club would be the masters of their own destiny again. Nice idea anyway Okay, you raise £75m and buy the club. Great. First day in the job the leccy bill arrives - £50k. Bill from WMP for the recent match - £30k. Who pays that? The players wages are due that week - another few million. Where's that coming from? Despite all the money we get from TV and gate receipts and general sales of merchandise, we still lose about a million a week! The club would be in administration in a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Okay, you raise £75m and buy the club. Great. First day in the job the leccy bill arrives - £50k. Bill from WMP for the recent match - £30k. Who pays that? The players wages are due that week - another few million. Where's that coming from? Despite all the money we get from TV and gate receipts and general sales of merchandise, we still lose about a million a week! The club would be in administration in a week! As I mentioned, it would take enormous amounts of organisation. You would need to find a capable C-level team and lines of credit from willing sources to deal with day to day costs but again it's not impossible. Every team in Germany is owned at least 51% by the fans (with the exception of about 3), and they are all well run, dealing with huge turnovers, minimal clubs with debt, with the highest league attendances in Europe. Why not Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, Xela said: Okay, you raise £75m and buy the club. Great. First day in the job the leccy bill arrives - £50k. Bill from WMP for the recent match - £30k. Who pays that? The players wages are due that week - another few million. Where's that coming from? What you'd need to find was a nice chap who works at a bank to help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Because German clubs had fan control before it was a multi-billion pound industry. As I understand it, they all just pay their annual membership (which is a nominal amount) to have their vote, German football fans have never had to collectively stump up tens of millions to seize control of their club. It's a comparison that just doesn't work. Edited April 19, 2016 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, snowychap said: What you'd need to find was a nice chap who works at a bank to help... I generally try not to lend money to companies that haemorrhage money! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) People always cite FC United of Manchester as being a good example of a fan owned club and doing well. Scratch beneath the surface though... http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/31/fc-united-manchester-broadhurst-park Quote Moving into their own ground, Broadhurst Park, was a momentous moment for the Manchester United refuseniks but behind the scenes a club built on shared principles has been undermined by legal action, resignations and gagging orders I've been to about 10 FC United games this year and there is a big divide even in the terraces.. at Corby, two fans of FC with opposing views got into a fight. There is no way shared ownership could work (IMO) at the top level in England Edited April 19, 2016 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 nationalise the villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1chuk Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I think fan ownership would be interesting, i would stump up as much spare cash as i had to buy a few shares. If every fan did this plus a few rich fans buying significant stakes we could raise enough to buy Lerner out. I would then keep Hollis as i think he is doing a decent job in the circumstances trying to make the club a more professional business and bring back Bernstein and King to the football board. We might not get back to the PL at first attempt but would put us on a solid footing to get further investment and push on. Oh and we'd be shot of Lerner ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, R1chuk said: I think fan ownership would be interesting, i would stump up as much spare cash as i had to buy a few shares. If every fan did this plus a few rich fans buying significant stakes we could raise enough to buy Lerner out. I would then keep Hollis as i think he is doing a decent job in the circumstances trying to make the club a more professional business and bring back Bernstein and King to the football board. We might not get back to the PL at first attempt but would put us on a solid footing to get further investment and push on. Oh and we'd be shot of Lerner ! What further investment You own the club. Those bills are due now, so better get your wallet out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Real Aston Villa. Time for the Duke of Cambridge to step up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 If the sale price was £75m, you'd want at least £150m - £250m at your disposal to buy the club and make changes. Don't forget this club is appallingly run and pisses money out the door! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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