kurtsimonw Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 40 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Living in Australia our teams play the Chinese teams in the Asian version of the Champions League. I went along when my local side, Sydney FC played Shandong Luneng in the knockout rounds. Sydney were a much better 'team', the Chinese players were truly dire, but Shandong had two strikers from South America who were heads and shoulders better than anyone on the pitch. It was pretty frustrating to watch their game plan to lump the ball up to the front two who would then make something happen. Unfortunately they ended up going through on the away goals rule. Pretty worrying for Chinese football if that's the case. Reminds me of when I was younger, in year 7 our team just got hammered by a local school because they just hoofed it to the 2 massive forwards who would scare headers for fun. By year 10, we were hammering them because we learned how to play football and they hadn't developed because of the same crap tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 19 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Pretty worrying for Chinese football if that's the case. Reminds me of when I was younger, in year 7 our team just got hammered by a local school because they just hoofed it to the 2 massive forwards who would scare headers for fun. By year 10, we were hammering them because we learned how to play football and they hadn't developed because of the same crap tactic. This happens in every sport. I had my growth spurt early and was probably a foot taller than everyone else when I was 12 or 13, so I was absolutely dominant at everything. Then everyone caught up to me in height and they'd all developed a lot more skill than I had by having to counter the fact that I was so much bigger stronger and faster than them. Ideally, if you have kids who you want to be great sportsmen, you want them to be midgets until late in their teens and then shoot up 2 feet IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Chinese clubs to limit the number of foreigners that can play each game to 3 as of March (season start). Will be (semi) interesting for Shanghai Shenhua who have Carlos Tevez, Demba Ba, Obafemi Martins, Fredy Guarin, Giovanni Moreno and a couple of other foreigners on their books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 16, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, bobzy said: Chinese clubs to limit the number of foreigners that can play each game to 3 as of March (season start). Will be (semi) interesting for Shanghai Shenhua who have Carlos Tevez, Demba Ba, Obafemi Martins, Fredy Guarin, Giovanni Moreno and a couple of other foreigners on their books. Three can play but they can have five in a match squad. So little impact you'd have thought as they wouldn't all play you would think besides Martins is almost 60. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 16, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Three can play but they can have five in a match squad. So little impact you'd have thought as they wouldn't all play you would think besides Martins is almost 60. It's strange, and rather pointless, that you can have 5 in a matchday squad if you're only allowed to play 3 of them per game. That's throwing away 2 sub spots I'd have thought. Quote Chinese Super League clubs will only be allowed to play three non-Chinese players per game in their next season - which begins in March. A rule change has reduced the number of foreigners allowed in a move which could slow down the wave of big-money signings from Europe. Previously the rule was "4+1" - four foreigners of any nationality plus one Asian in a matchday squad. Teams will now also be required to name two under-23 Chinese players in their matchday squads, with at least one in the starting XI, with the Chinese Football Association also looking into "signature fees and other illegal activities" in recent transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Well, Ba could come on for Tevez I guess. Probably better than the local lad as a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 16, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Well, Ba could come on for Tevez I guess. Probably better than the local lad as a sub. The wording of the article above suggests that bringing a foreigner on for a foreigner would technically be using a 4th foreigner on the day and therefore not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 minute ago, BOF said: The wording of the article above suggests that bringing a foreigner on for a foreigner would technically be using a 4th foreigner on the day and therefore not allowed. Very true - assume it's an error. This article words it pretty exactly: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10729906/chinese-football-association-impose-foreign-player-cuts-in-super-league "Every team will only be allowed to have three foreign players on the pitch at one time, and can only have five in the 18-man match day squad." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 16, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Very true - assume it's an error. This article words it pretty exactly: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10729906/chinese-football-association-impose-foreign-player-cuts-in-super-league "Every team will only be allowed to have three foreign players on the pitch at one time, and can only have five in the 18-man match day squad." Yep that's certainly more clarification and a more deliberate wording. Top work Auntie once again letting her journalistic standards slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 1/15/2017 at 03:34, kurtsimonw said: Pretty worrying for Chinese football if that's the case. Reminds me of when I was younger, in year 7 our team just got hammered by a local school because they just hoofed it to the 2 massive forwards who would scare headers for fun. By year 10, we were hammering them because we learned how to play football and they hadn't developed because of the same crap tactic. English football in a nutshell. Teams are taught to win rather than develop. And at younger levels it means the bigger stronger kids succeed. That's why we lack technique as a nation, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 theres a couple of leagues with similar rules to that, from FM im sure in russia you have to have 5 russians on the pitch at any point you'd be pissed as an owner if you'd gone out and bought 5/6 foreigners on massive wages, which tbf they encouraged them to do, only to be told you cant play them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, villa4europe said: theres a couple of leagues with similar rules to that, from FM im sure in russia you have to have 5 russians on the pitch at any point you'd be pissed as an owner if you'd gone out and bought 5/6 foreigners on massive wages, which tbf they encouraged them to do, only to be told you cant play them Not the place for it, but I think English teams should adopt a similar rule. Not feasible I don't think as wouldn't it be classed as illegal in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 i dont know, it almost seems like a loop hole, the law might be that you cant restrict the number of foreigners, so for example you cant say the starting 11 can only have 5 foreigners but if you look at the 25 man squad rules which say something like 8 home grown players theres obviously scope for it, if you take that 8 home grown player in the 25 man squad rule and make it 8 home grown players in the match day squad then i dont really see the huge difference between the 2 my problem with that would be that english player fees and wages would go even higher, there needs to be a balance between an english players ability and their value which at the moment we are getting badly wrong give it a couple of years and it'll be interesting to see if the best chinese players start to realise their value in that system, id say at a guess straight away there are no foreign keepers over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, Xela said: Not the place for it, but I think English teams should adopt a similar rule. Not feasible I don't think as wouldn't it be classed as illegal in the UK? Don't we already adopt a "homegrown" quota? Could just extend that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 16, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, Xela said: Not the place for it, but I think English teams should adopt a similar rule. Not feasible I don't think as wouldn't it be classed as illegal in the UK? Minimum of 2 Chinese players? Only a matter of time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 5 hours ago, bobzy said: Chinese clubs to limit the number of foreigners that can play each game to 3 as of March (season start). Will be (semi) interesting for Shanghai Shenhua who have Carlos Tevez, Demba Ba, Obafemi Martins, Fredy Guarin, Giovanni Moreno and a couple of other foreigners on their books. is Demba Ba back playing? I didnt think he would play again after that injury he got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Hate is a strong word, but I genuinely do hate Axel Witsel, up to his old tricks, one of the dirtiest players in football: I would love him to get one of his legs snapped in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 That decision is indefensible. If the ref didn't see it, how can he give a yellow? If he has seen it, to give a yellow should just be sackable.Either way, the ref has dropped a bollock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 A legitimately good result for China on Thursday, beat South Korea 1-0 at home. Maybe we'll see them at 2022 World cup although that's going to be a proper scrap in Asia given Qatar will get an automatic berth as hosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Witsel is the ultimate definition of a footballing mercenary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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