nick76 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: No I think he has cracking potential. I think ideally he needs to play regular football for now, see if he can improve his decision making, bag a few goals and then make the jump. Cracking potential on everything but getting into the right positions to score goals and if he does, he can’t put it in the net. Two key attributes for a striker. He doesn’t haven’t to be high scorer but needs to contribute in terms of goals and he doesn’t look like he has that potential. Needs to go on loan a couple of times and review in a year or two but if we got a good offer now to sell I’d snap their hands off because he doesnt have enough for a PL striker IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, nick76 said: Cracking potential on everything but getting into the right positions to score goals and if he does, he can’t put it in the net. Two key attributes for a striker. He doesn’t haven’t to be high scorer but needs to contribute in terms of goals and he doesn’t look like he has that potential. Needs to go on loan a couple of times and review in a year or two but if we got a good offer now to sell I’d snap their hands off because he doesnt have enough for a PL striker IMO. He's a target man. He has a quality first touch, he can wiggle his way out of a jam with his footwork and we know the physical attributes are all there. He has over his short career averaged 2.3 shots per game, compared to Wesley's 2.46. So if he isn't getting it done there, then neither is our £22m striker. You're right that his finishing has been poor. I also think the sample size is really small, he has only played a touch over 2,000 minutes in his career. 55 shots total. It isn't good enough that he only has 2 goals from that, but we never heard of issues with his finishing coming up? There could be a lot of bad luck involved here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: he can wiggle his way out of a jam with his footwork but we never heard of issues with his finishing coming up? I don’t think his footwork is that good, looks similar to welbeck in that he beats someone more by luck than judgement. He wasn’t with us coming up, but I’d guess one of the reasons he wasn’t at an academy is that he isn’t a natural finisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I think he may get more game time that people think whilst Wesley gets up to speed. Looks like we are trying to get goals across the front line - rather than a prolific number 9 - still think that might leave us short of goals - but confident that DS knows what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Looks like the management have real faith in this guy, just as Bruce did (to an extent) previously. Hope he can make his mark. There's only just over a year's age gap between him and Wesley so hopefully he can push him all the way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I like Davis. Great talent. Much prefer him to Kodjia, but guess they both can play wing and striker if required. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Really would love him to come good. ...IMO him weighing in with 10-12 goals isn't off the agenda - look at the supply line we have & Smith's record of getting people scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Every time I watch Davis he looks excellent to me, he just can't seem to score, but it's not as if every time he gets a chance he completely messes up often he'll test the keeper, or come very close. It was barely a year ago that we were in the championship, he was being compared to Benteke, and he was being linked with a move to the Premier league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Kinda is do or bust for him this year imo. I hope he finally steps up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Really hope he proves me wrong, but I worry about him being one of our only back ups. Just can’t shake the notion that in 2 yrs we’ll be saying Keinan who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 23 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: I don’t think his footwork is that good, looks similar to welbeck in that he beats someone more by luck than judgement. Now please don't take this the wrong way but this just sounds like a load of waffle to me. I don't really care how graceful a player looks whilst doing it, the fact that it is a demonstrably repeatable skill is all that matters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knutserov13 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I think Keinan will do just fine of given the opportunity. I like him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, hippo said: Really would love him to come good. ...IMO him weighing in with 10-12 goals isn't off the agenda - look at the supply line we have & Smith's record of getting people scoring. Him scoring 10 + goals would mean Davis starting the vast majority of games. That's well off the agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, El-Reacho said: Looks like the management have real faith in this guy, just as Bruce did (to an extent) previously. Hope he can make his mark. There's only just over a year's age gap between him and Wesley so hopefully he can push him all the way. I don’t think Bruce had any faith in him. The only time he played him was when all the other strikers were injured. None have us have seen him, not in the first team anyway, since Dean Smith came in. He’s apparently come on a lot over the summer and is now working under a different team of coaches, with a proven record of developing young players. Only time will tell, but hopefully the lad can do well and have a breakout season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted August 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2019 Pleased he will get a chance I think he is very much like Heskey in that other players love playing with him as he brings them into the game. Still young and learning and with our coaching staff he will get better and better. Last year we only had Kod as back up to Tammy so having Kod and Davis as back up to Wez is an improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I would like to have seen him loaned out for a season to go grab some goals and confidence in scoring them. I think it would do wonders for his overall game. However I do also see merit in keeping him around to train with better players than he would have had he gone on loan. I do think though that the plan was to let him go out had we been able to get another CF in but I'm not fussed either way. He's young and Smith has got faith in him so that's good enough for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 He might not even get much game time at all if Kodjia is seen as second choice to Moraes, and we're lucky with injuries, if we'd have signed our target today then he probably would have gone on loan to championshp club. Still if he gets his chance I think he's well capable of making an impression, I wonder if it would be worth bringing in a striker coach to help with his finishing, help him improve that and we could have a most excellent centre-forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Needs a loan and first team minutes. Was ineffective in the championship and he will get destroyed in the prem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, S-Platt said: Pleased he will get a chance I think he is very much like Heskey in that other players love playing with him as he brings them into the game. Still young and learning and with our coaching staff he will get better and better. Last year we only had Kod as back up to Tammy so having Kod and Davis as back up to Wez is an improvement. Why did Davis not count as back-up last season? He played, he was at the club? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I can see him being our seco d choice striker if wesley is injured which is less than ideal. We are really going to have to rely on goals from midfield this season I fear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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