MaVilla Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, sidcow said: Both our wingers are poor. I would definitely play him and rely on fullbacks for width. think ur right, but.....we know that aint gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, sidcow said: Both our wingers are poor. I would definitely play him and rely on fullbacks for width. I definitely agree on that. Would give us a huge presence upfront. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Is he fit to start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 hours ago, gwi1890 said: I think its the only way we get anything out of this game, he doesn't score but everthing sticks , id rather get him fit for leicester though I think if he is given a run in the team, he will score goals, he has yet to even start a league match. He’s a much better finisher than he is given credit for 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think if he is given a run in the team, he will score goals, he has yet to even start a league match. He’s a much better finisher than he is given credit for I mean, there's no evidence for ths but I do feel like this will be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I mean, there's no evidence for ths but I do feel like this will be the case. Whenever I saw him for the u18s or the u23s, he had no trouble scoring goals Edited March 1, 2020 by sir_gary_cahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Whenever I saw him for the u18s or the u23s, he had no trouble scoring goals Pretty sure some guy already posted in here that his goal scoring record for the U18s and U20s wasn't prolific either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 11 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think if he is given a run in the team, he will score goals, he has yet to even start a league match. He’s a much better finisher than he is given credit for Yes he needs an actual chance something he has never been giving even when fit , not into Wesley bashing but if Keinan was given the same amout of time as him Im sure he would have done as well if not better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 He needs to add goals to his game at some point. Even if you add in Premier League 2 games and PL U21 games he only has 11 in 89. At 22 years old that simply isn't good enough. If he can avoid injuries it's a big step in the right direction but with so many clubs, us included playing with only 1 central striker he's going to struggle to get starts unless he adds goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Since our wingers are shit. Why not try a diamond with Davis and Samatta up front! .....................Reina..................... Elmo......Engels.Mings....Targett ......................Nakamba...................... ....................Luiz...Hourihane.............. .......................Jack.......................... ..............Samatta..Davis.................... Obviously put's a lot pressure on the fullbacks to provide the width and put in decent crosses which is why i've got Elmo in ahead of Guilbert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: Since our wingers are shit. Why not try a diamond with Davis and Samatta up front! .....................Reina..................... Elmo......Engels.Mings....Targett ......................Nakamba...................... ....................Luiz...Hourihane.............. .......................Jack.......................... ..............Samatta..Davis.................... Obviously put's a lot pressure on the fullbacks to provide the width and put in decent crosses which is why i've got Elmo in ahead of Guilbert. I think it would leave us too open on the wings and neither Elmo or Targett are great defenders to start with so faced with an opposition winger and fullback, other teams would just bypass our central midfield and attack down the sides. We see some of that with 433 formation but with the diamond formation that might be even worse. I think because we aren’t a strong team that can dominate matches this would be a hard formation for us to get benefit from......but who knows, might be worth a try. i would just tweak it a bit and play 4312 with Nakamba, Luiz, Conor spread across the midfield and then Jack floating around the front two to go where he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Ken McNaughts Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 For some extra context... since every 5-10 min cameo goes down as a non-scoring "appearance"... his total minutes at U23 level amount to a shade over 25 full matches (7 goals, 8 assists). And at first team level a shade under 25 full matches (4 goals, 5 assists). Not horrific by any means. Also not sure why his deflected turn-and-shot that Samatta headed home at Bournemouth doesn't seem to have registered as an assist, but what do I know? Anyway, unsurprisingly, I totally agree with those suggesting Davis play in a two with Samatta. The entire Premier League figured out our "isolated frontman" approach ages ago. This would tear it all up and might just give us – for the first time in forever – an element of surprise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 He needs to be playing football as of right now he has shown little evidence of (i) an ability to stay fit and be a reliable contributor, (ii) score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 01/03/2020 at 13:56, gwi1890 said: Yes he needs an actual chance something he has never been giving even when fit , not into Wesley bashing but if Keinan was given the same amout of time as him Im sure he would have done as well if not better I agree with you to an extent but it’s worrying considering we paid £22m for Wesley and peanuts for Davis, I wouldn’t write either of them off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) It completely staggers me that people can't see the potential of Davis. Keep going on about his scoring record when he's only managed bit parts here and there and mainly in trying circumstances. A matter of time before he starts scoring especially if given a little more time. Edited March 5, 2020 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, sidcow said: It completely staggers me that people can't see the potential of David. Keep going on about his scoring record wheb he's only managed bit parts here and there and mainly in trying circumstances. A matter of time before he starts scoring especially if given a little more time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, MaVilla said: d Sarn autocorrect. Sarn should be Darn but for some unknown reason it's defaulting to Sarn rather like Davis becomes David. AAAAAGGGHHH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Outside of the goalkeepers and defenders, I think only Grealish, McGinn and probably Samatta are better players than him, he's more consistent than any of our other players and makes a bigger difference to the teams' performances. Extremely underrated because he hasn't been very good at scoring goals but his all round game is very good indeed, in fact I think it's that good that he could play in any of the attacking positions and make a valuable contribution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elton Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I’m just here to like every post that praises Davis. He has real potential. More Heskey potential than a goal machine but people seem to forget how good Heskey was in his prime and how important he was to some very good teams, including England. I’m looking forward to when Sir Gary Cahill starts to post that Davis isn’t all that, as that should mean we have another superstar on the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Elton said: I’m just here to like every post that praises Davis. He has real potential. More Heskey potential than a goal machine but people seem to forget how good Heskey was in his prime and how important he was to some very good teams, including England. I’m looking forward to when Sir Gary Cahill starts to post that Davis isn’t all that, as that should mean we have another superstar on the books. I often talk about defending......understatement or what?....i'll get my coat. He is an epitome of defending from the front, such a useful attribute.....he needs to play in a 2 so the other fella can score and him hold the ball up.....a successful duo and a run of games and he will eventually start scoring. Its his blessed injury record thats depriving us of a potentially valuable player and him of a career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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