Popular Post Butterfingers Posted January 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2016 Reading the posts since Saturday, I think there are many on here who feel the same as I do. I would go as far as to suggest that we are in the majority. Most of us have seen the videos after the Wycome and Sunderland matches. I'm told (don't know, wasn't there) that the reason the players didn't go over to the fans after Sunderland is because of the abuse they got at Norwich when they went over at the end. This whole thing is escalating and is dividing us-Mica Richards was spot on, we all need to be together. We may well be down but even if we're just playing for pride, I'm sure everyone wants to see the lads have a go. The new year period could have been our rock bottom, it could be that we've reached our lowest point and can now move in the other direction (even if only slightly). The players on the pitch are not to blame for this shambles-Does anybody blame any one of them for taking the opportunity to play for this great club of ours? Would you have turned the chance down if you were Ashley Westwood, Jores Okore, Jordan Ayew, Carlos Sanchez? The damage has been done over a 5 year period by incompetents behind the scenes-Incompetents who couldn't trap a bag of cement between them. The heart of the side was torn apart in the Summer-We have a new team who were obviously going to take time to gel (and in many cases, settle into the league) How much more likely are the players going to want to bust a gut for us if they see we're behind them? They haven't covered themselves in glory-They know this and don't need reminding of it. People talk about wanting Jordan Ayew to stay next season-Does anyone really think he'd want to hang around in this poisonous atmosphere? Carry on giving them stick and they'll all just play the season out and look to leave in the summer. If this season has shown us anything, it is to remind us of the difficulties of throwing a new set of players together. If we have to do the same next season then we might just as well write it off as well. We need a nucleus to move forward with. I urge-No, I beg everyone to support the team-Stop all the "political" chants that fall on deaf ears, other than the players who sense the unrest. If you see the team bus, applaud it or give them your thumbs up, if you see a player out and about, tell him that you're behind him and not to throw the towel in. Most importantly, if you hear anyone shouting abuse at the team, try to reason with him. Lets stop this now before it escalates-Lets have a big show of support tomorrow. I remember one of my first ever visits to Villa Park, the night we were relegated to division 3. I was overwhelmed by the support and the love for Villa. I became a Villa fan that night. This bad feeling could really get out of control-The press are waiting to jump on it and in fighting between fans is just around the corner.. Lets surprise everyone and work with the lads, not against them. I'm sure everyone would agree that they need all the help that they can get and would really appreciate encouragement and support. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 The players always have my support. No matter how earned it is. I've never booed, if that was going to change it would have this season. They've done their best to earn it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 The team has demonstrated an incredible lack of quality and at various points an astonishing lack of effort, fight and heart. They really are not deserving of the support they have already received this season, so I don't think a plea to get behind them is particularly justified as things stand. To make it justifiable we need to see results and more desire on the pitch I'm afraid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Not that I think the players should be absolved of blame but I really do believe that the fans should do their very best to create a positive atmosphere at VP. It couldn't hurt, could it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 What team? Would never boo or shout abuse but i dont get what there is to get behind? Maybe cheer a corner/throw in or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Given the tripe served up over the last handful of years I think the fans have in the main shown patience and the support has been very good. Over recent seasons we have struggled but never been cut adrift and in those circumstances in crucial games the supporters have turned out in big numbers and got right behind the players. However all hope has gone now and there is nothing to get behind. All too often this season too many of the players have not put a shift in and that is unforgivable. I'll be there tomorrow as I have been for almost every home game for the last 28 years and much like DDID said earlier in this thread I have never booed the players and that won't start now but for now I won't be straining my voice again to back them either. They haven't earned it and don't deserve it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuneatonVilla Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Some people make out its the players that are the victims but I'm sorry this isn't the case here, the fans have put up with so much this season and for the other five and I'm afraid at the end of the day it us fans that are the victims. We've backed Villa so much over the years but it seems like we get nothing back in return. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 25 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: The team has demonstrated an incredible lack of quality and at various points an astonishing lack of effort, fight and heart. They really are not deserving of the support they have already received this season, so I don't think a plea to get behind them is particularly justified as things stand. To make it justifiable we need to see results and more desire on the pitch I'm afraid. Well you're in a vicious circle then aren't you? You want results to improve but you're not prepared to back the team-you're happy to sit there like a spare dinner while a few morons are speaking for all of us. Well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 11 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Given the tripe served up over the last handful of years I think the fans have in the main shown patience and the support has been very good. Over recent seasons we have struggled but never been cut adrift and in those circumstances in crucial games the supporters have turned out in big numbers and got right behind the players. However all hope has gone now and there is nothing to get behind. All too often this season too many of the players have not put a shift in and that is unforgivable. I'll be there tomorrow as I have been for almost every home game for the last 28 years and much like DDID said earlier in this thread I have never booed the players and that won't start now but for now I won't be straining my voice again to back them either. They haven't earned it and don't deserve it. The tripe served up in previous years has very little to do with the current team. A handful of idiots are making all the noise and causing further problems-If you're happy to sit there and not make an effort then good luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 The team has demonstrated an incredible lack of quality and at various points an astonishing lack of effort, fight and heart. They really are not deserving of the support they have already received this season, so I don't think a plea to get behind them is particularly justified as things stand. To make it justifiable we need to see results and more desire on the pitch I'm afraid. This At least give me half an impression that you'd run through a wall for this club and then I'll applaud you off no matter what the result Duck and dive tackles for 90 minutes and I'm going to boo I'm not going to stand there like a seal clapping along Saw it at Norwich and Sunderland, better fan brigade claiming it was the fans fault that we weren't winning, it's utter bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'll tell you something, our home support has gotten a bit of stick over the years, mostly from our own fans, but compared to almost every other ground I've visited it's normally better than all but two or three, even now it's still better than many. Both ends of the ground sing regularly for one, that in itself is fairly unique. The Holte End in full roar is still a sight to behold. We're a good set of fans who deserve better than this. I agree also that we deserve more from our players. Shouty coach man crossed a line I wouldn't for sure, but I don't really blame the bloke. 38k at our last home game. Were not some newly promoted side either, we've had 5 years of this shit. All it took was an equalising goal and it was **** pandemonium in the stands. Yes, I think f-ing and jeffing at the players getting on the coach has a finite shelf life. But I don't think it's fair to even hint that we're not "behind the team". 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Butterfingers said: The tripe served up in previous years has very little to do with the current team. A handful of idiots are making all the noise and causing further problems-If you're happy to sit there and not make an effort then good luck to you. Happy to sit there and not make any effort. Really? I will have already made an effort having again forked out nearly £800 on two season tickets. Having rushed home from work to get to the game. I am not blaming those not here last season or previous seasons for the struggles then. I am blaming them for the lack of effort they have shown in all too many games this season. A lack of ability I will forgive but as I said a lack of effort is unforgivable. Edited January 11, 2016 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 If cheering makes us as little as 0.001% more likely to win then it's preferable to booing AFAIC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 No thanks. They are, in the majority,a bunch of lazy, spineless, gutless, cowards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: No thanks. They are, in the majority,a bunch of lazy, spineless, gutless, cowards. In the alternative then, can you please keep away until the end of the season? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Given the tripe served up over the last handful of years I think the fans have in the main shown patience and the support has been very good. Over recent seasons we have struggled but never been cut adrift and in those circumstances in crucial games the supporters have turned out in big numbers and got right behind the players. However all hope has gone now and there is nothing to get behind. All too often this season too many of the players have not put a shift in and that is unforgivable. I'll be there tomorrow as I have been for almost every home game for the last 28 years and much like DDID said earlier in this thread I have never booed the players and that won't start now but for now I won't be straining my voice again to back them either. They haven't earned it and don't deserve it. The tripe served up in previous years has very little to do with the current team. A handful of idiots are making all the noise and causing further problems-If you're happy to sit there and not make an effort then good luck to you. I'm not being funny, and believe me when I say I'm not a soft lad, I did try remonstrating with a fella who lost his shit at Guzan when he rolled the ball to Amavi at the Palace game. He was apoplectic, I thought he was being a petulant little child. We nearly came to blows. I love my club, always will, but I'm not getting a broken nose or worse, breaking somebody's nose, trying to calm some bloody idiot down. I'm not **** batman, I'm there to support my team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermie123 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 No probs with that i need to sort out my allotment anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 No thanks. They are, in the majority,a bunch of lazy, spineless, gutless, cowards. In the alternative then, can you please keep away until the end of the season? Thanks in advance. Are going to stay and clap the lap of honour vs Newcastle? Clapping and cheering a team that will probably end the season as the 2nd worst in PL history I personally think the abuse aimed at the coach isn't on but they're unbelievable lucky that VP hasn't turned on them yet, wasn't particularly fond of warnocks every touch being booed (or his numerous attempts at an own goal that brought those boos on) but I can envisage Guzan and gestede getting that before the end of the season, I don't think the vitriol has even started yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Happy to sit there and not make any effort. Really? I will have already made an effort having again forked out nearly £800 on two season tickets. Having rushed on home from work to get to the game. I am not blaming those not here last season or previous seasons for the struggles then. I am blaming them for the lack of effort they have shown in all too many games this season. A lack of ability I will forgive but as I said a lack of effort is unforgivable. Many people have bought season tickets Mark-Not just you. Many people rush home from work to get to a game as well. This is not about being holier than thou or being a superfan-It is about shutting up a mindless minority who are causing us far more problems than we need at present. If they see that the majority of fans want to support the team, maybe they will crawl back under their stones? I've said that the players haven't covered themselves in glory and that I'm sure they know it-I don't care what has gone on. I'm looking about what will happen moving forward. Someone has to make the first move. We can either wait for the team to improve or use this crisis as a catalyst. Throughout our history, fans have reacted positively to these types of crisis. I appreciate theres a lot of new wave muppets out there. I don't care about them-I care about the Villa and whats happening to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 If you are trying to get people on side you're going the wrong way about it Butterfingers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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