Are you protesting on Tuesday against Palace?

[dont_do_it_doug.]

Can't see the point of adding to the alteady toxic atmosphere surrounding the club. Lerner already wants out.

He doesn't want it enough.

[dont_do_it_doug.]

Protesting before the game is a load of crap. Should protest whilst the game is playing. As soon is the match kicks off everybody should get up and go towards the exits, come back again after 15mins. Or, everyone just sit silent for a certain amount of time - no cheering, no clapping, nothing...

A football club is nothing without fans - gives the right people a taste of what that would feel like if everybody was pushed away. 

So tell me, what will you be doing?

[Tayls]

24 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said:

So tell me, what will you be doing?

Driving back from work. 

[Wainy316]

We'll prob go 3-0 up in the first 15 minutes then lose 4-3.

[lexicon]

"What do we want?"

"Randy out!"

"What does he want?"

"The same thing!.... oh."

[DCJonah]

Just now, lexicon said:

"What do we want?"

"Randy out!"

"What does he want?"

"The same thing!.... oh."

He'll be so happy. 

[limpid]

So what are the aims of the protest and who is leading it so that we can ask them these questions?

[chrissmith921]

Sky Sports News will love this - 30 people in a car park with some bedsheets. F**k sake

[Seat68]

I really want villa to make some expensive kneejerk signings on lengthy contracts. 

[Richard]

Really saddens me that some villa fans seem to be keen to critise or ridicule other villa fans or rubbish the idea of those fans expressing their total frustration and concern with the running of the club, a club we all support .

You don't agree with the idea of fans gathering in Union to express their feeling, fine don't join, it's not for everyone understand that. But don't criticise them or try to make this look like a joke. It isn't.

im not organising it, I don't know who is if anyone.  It's not like years ago where there had to be an organising group a la VFC. This is a more modern age where fans can whip this up on the internet which sort of Helps that communication spread. But just because there is not single organiser doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. If the was a group such like VFC then no doubt they'd be getting criticised as well, and probably by the same people now trying to ridicule this for no one organising group! Simple fact of the matter is we are all pissed off with the state of our club right now and I think people want to vent, to show that to hopefully feel like they are being heard because it seems those running the club are not listening. Is that the aim? God knows . It would be my aim if I could get there. Maybe people protesting have different aims , maybe everyone has a different reason or aim as well as the one main one which unites them. See the one thing that unites them, us, everyone on this site is the wellbeing of Villa. People running our club don't seem I tested in that well being, they are certainly harming it. So who cares what else you are there for tomorrow, the main thing is the club that we have all spent time and money supporting in whatever way.

so if you support villa and want to express that and feel like joining in I urge you to go along and do so. If you support villa but cannot join the protest for whatever reason that's fine fans understand that you still support the club but don't knock those that are on ding together showing their concern. There is so much division at the club right now we have to be together on the one thing that matters.

so maybe it isn't a protest. Maybe it is a mutual coming together of fans standing side by side showing their concern for the club. That's all the aim we need surely?

[lexicon]

Probably because focusing that energy into supporting the players and getting behind the team is far more productive than continuing the cycle of negativity. The board know this is unacceptable, they know that we know this, they know that we're not happy with it, they're not trying to be this shit. 

Just seems like a waste of time and energy to me. 

[Richard]

2 minutes ago, lexicon said:

Probably because focusing that energy into supporting the players and getting behind the team is far more productive than continuing the cycle of negativity. The board know this is unacceptable, they know that we know this, they know that we're not happy with it, they're not trying to be this shit. 

Just seems like a waste of time and energy to me. 

Fans can do both. Just because they gather before the game doesn't mean they can't cheer theplayers when they get into the ground. Although to what ends I'm not sure.  I doubt it would have any positive impact on our team anyway and besides which winning a game or two would be pretty futile given our position, it seems the players have given up anyway . The support has in the main been magnificent this season given the durge we have had to put up with.

in terms of the board knowing this, are you on it in some sort of non executive capacity? That's facetious actually I know you aren't but the thing is, how do you know they are aware? What gives you the impression they know ? Because I'm not convinced. Thousands of other fans aren't convinced and this is their chance to at least persuade themselves that they have done things to make the hoard know

[PieFacE]

Though I'm a season ticket holder I've decided to give this game a miss. As I have the past 3 games. I hate the fact that I really cannot be bothered to go to the Villa anymore. As for the protest, even if I did go to the game, I wouldn't do it.

 

No one at Villa wants to be in this situation, protesting isn't really achieving anything other than bringing more negativity to the club. If there was a valid reason for it, I'd be all up for it, but I don't see one here.

Edited January 11, 2016 by PieFacE

[lexicon]

13 minutes ago, Richard said:

Fans can do both. Just because they gather before the game doesn't mean they can't cheer theplayers when they get into the ground. Although to what ends I'm not sure.  I doubt it would have any positive impact on our team anyway and besides which winning a game or two would be pretty futile given our position, it seems the players have given up anyway . The support has in the main been magnificent this season given the durge we have had to put up with.

in terms of the board knowing this, are you on it in some sort of non executive capacity? That's facetious actually I know you aren't but the thing is, how do you know they are aware? What gives you the impression they know ? Because I'm not convinced. Thousands of other fans aren't convinced and this is their chance to at least persuade themselves that they have done things to make the hoard know

Do you honestly think that they think that this where we are is acceptable? 

Fox himself said last month -  "It's clearly not where we want to be and it's not good enough. "

[Richard]

6 minutes ago, lexicon said:

Do you honestly think that they think that this where we are is acceptable? 

Fox himself said last month -  "It's clearly not where we want to be and it's not good enough. "

Do you honestly think they know the extent of the fans frustration, or care?

[lexicon]

4 minutes ago, Richard said:

Do you honestly think they know the extent of the fans frustration, or care?

The very public abuse of the players and manager getting on the coach and Richards talking to the fans being in the news? Of course they know and I don't see why they wouldn't care.

[Morley_crosses_to_Withe]

The fact that there's this "crisis meeting" going on (as reported in several newspapers today and not just the rags) says to me that people at the club are fully aware of what is going on. 

I know it's cool to pretend that people like Fox are in their offices right now, smashing their phone against their heads, whilst singing nursery rhymes and drawing on the walls with crayons, but I'd imagine, with a high level of certainty, that they've all seen the coverage from the weekend; they consumed the various news reports; they are aware of the toxic environment prevalent throughout the club.

But I've got nothing against the protests. People support the club in the way they chose and each person is well within their right to voice their discontent via the form of protest.

I just don't know what the message is or what it will achieve, but if it allows some fans to let off steam, and feel like they've done something for the cause then they should crack on. 

Edited January 11, 2016 by Morley_crosses_to_Withe

[Stevo985]

I appreciate the effort some people will go to.

But this will end up making us look even more of a laughing stock than we already are.

[chrissmith921]

The whole thing is - what are they protesting about? State of the club? Its been this way for 4 years, we were just blessed to have a hell of a centre forward who single handedly kept us in this division for 3 years in a row. No signings? We signed a whole new squad in the summer. I'm really confused as to what the focus of the protest is, or its aims. Protest that some billionaire somewhere hasn't bought us yet?

[Stevo985]

Just now, chrissmith921 said:

The whole thing is - what are they protesting about? State of the club? Its been this way for 4 years, we were just blessed to have a hell of a centre forward who single handedly kept us in this division for 3 years in a row. No signings? We signed a whole new squad in the summer. I'm really confused as to what the focus of the protest is, or its aims. Protest that some billionaire somewhere hasn't bought us yet?

There's no message. The only thing I've seen about this "protest" is a couple of posts on here. But none of them say what the protest is.

It'll end up being a handful of angry fans all shouting about different things, ultimately wanting "lerner out", which is also what he wants.

I'm already cringing at the bed sheets.