Czechlad Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Adbo9 said: Not many id keep. Guzan: OUT Bennett: KEEP - be a decent championship player Richards: OUT Okore: OUT - Not ability, but as the championship is relentless, you need to be able to play 3 games a week - he struggles with 3 games a month Clark: KEEP Bacuna: OUT Gana: OUT Sinclair: KEEP - Be a decent championship wideman Gabby: OUT Westwood: KEEP Lescott: OUT - Legs have gone Veretout: OUT - Severely Shit Richardson: OUT Ayew: KEEP if we can. Traore: ???? Hutton: KEEP Amavi: Inured, but OUT Sanchez: KEEP Gil: OUT - useless lightweight Kozak: OUT Zog: OUT Bunn: OUT Lyden: ?? Gestede: KEEP Grealish: KEEP Cissokho: KEEP Nathan Baker, Steer, Gardner - would bring back all from loan to supplement the squad............. For me, thatd leave a solid core of 14 players for the first team, so will prob need 6 to 8 more player to add to that and compete............... not impossible This is insane. I know our team is terrible, but you can't release 3/4 of a club and expect to just buy all new players. You want to keep 14 players then sign 6-8 more? You need 25 players registered for a season. We wouldn't even achieve that if we signed 10 players. We'd need to make 11 signings minimum with your approach. Be realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 18 minutes ago, Czechlad said: This is insane. I know our team is terrible, but you can't release 3/4 of a club and expect to just buy all new players. You want to keep 14 players then sign 6-8 more? You need 25 players registered for a season. We wouldn't even achieve that if we signed 10 players. We'd need to make 11 signings minimum with your approach. Be realistic. I dont agree with his keep or release list in too many places but to be frank this is the issue facing us. If we want to be competitive next season I truly believe we will need to replace 3 quarters if not more of the squad, the current lot is that bad and there is a cancerous culture within it that needs removing, only the deep cut removal will work 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 11 minutes ago, Richard said: I dont agree with his keep or release list in too many places but to be frank this is the issue facing us. If we want to be competitive next season I truly believe we will need to replace 3 quarters if not more of the squad, the current lot is that bad and there is a cancerous culture within it that needs removing, only the deep cut removal will work While I agree we need to replace a lot of people, I just don't think this is a thing that can happen in a summer. That will probably take us a couple years to get all new players into the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnock1984 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Henri Landsbury would be a good signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 11, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2016 15 minutes ago, Czechlad said: While I agree we need to replace a lot of people, I just don't think this is a thing that can happen in a summer. That will probably take us a couple years to get all new players into the club. It can and it does, sheffield weds last summer saw 20 in, 15 out, then Fulham saw 23 out and 12 in. Big turnover in playing staff at most clubs in the championship as they shuffle their deck in an attempt to reach the prem, usually ending up breaking even on costs. This is the summary I've found quite useful lately http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Championship-transfers-did-club-spend-summer/story-27741795-detail/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 the first team isnt going to be overhauled in one transfer window, it will be 3 at least we are also going to need the biggest rotational team as possible due to the extra games we will be playing, most of the first team have had it far too easily, theyre going to have to earn their money now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Broadly the vast majority of our foreign players will go (Adama, Ayew, Gana - bought) , (Guzan, Bacuna - chased out) but the old Premier League British journeymen will stay (Hutton, Richards, Richardson, Gabby, Sinclair, Lescott,). There is an argument (not by me) that these old washed up cloggers could do well in the Championship. David James and Sherwood last night mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 3 hours ago, nnock1984 said: Henri Landsbury would be a good signing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 33 minutes ago, dounavilla said: might help solve some of the crap thats going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis242 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/12/dwight-gayle-crystal-palace-contract If you haven't known already : Dwight Gayle has signed a new contract at Palace until 2019. Does this new contract make it impossible for us to sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sam3773 Posted April 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/12/dwight-gayle-crystal-palace-contract If you haven't known already : Dwight Gayle has signed a new contract at Palace until 2019. Does this new contract make it impossible for us to sign him? Did they announce it at half time on a large TV with Gayle winking at the crowd? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switters Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I can easily see us shipping about 15 players, with a mix of sales, loans and paid off/released. It's certainly not unheard of for Premier League clubs relegated to the Championship to make changes on this scale. Realistically, we're not necessarily going to be able to shift all the ones we might like to (Agbonlahor probably heads this list) or indeed keep the few we might prefer to (Ayew). So at a guess, we'll be looking at something like: Release/pay off/get negligible fee for - N'Zogbia, Richardson, Crespo, Bennett, Guzan, Richards, Bacuna, Kozak Sell (as they will want to go and clubs may pay actual money for them) - Ayew, Gueye, Gil, Sanchez, Okore (between them might bring in ~£20m) Loan - Traore, Veretout (I think these two will want to leave and we'd struggle to get half what we paid back so a loan might make more sense for now) -- Would leave squad along lines of: GK:Bunn, Steer LB:Amavi, Cissokho RB:Hutton CB:Clark, Baker, Lescott CM:Westwood, Gardner, Lyden Wide:Grealish, Sinclair, Green FW:Agbonlahor, Gestede, Robinson That would need serious work and investment: 3 or 4 quality additions in midfield and at least one striker who can definitely score goals at this level. And a first choice GK, 2 or 3 in defence and some more creativity, means we'd be looking at 10-12 incoming (maybe fewer if there are others in youth setup who can realistically step up). The good thing about this is that a new manager would get a real opportunity to make something like the squad he wants so obviously it's important we get someone in before too long so they can be making decisions early in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 On 11/04/2016 at 00:28, Czechlad said: While I agree we need to replace a lot of people, I just don't think this is a thing that can happen in a summer. That will probably take us a couple years to get all new players into the club. Ultimately I think it'll depend on how many we can get rid off. If players are in contract, and no one comes in for them or they decide they don't want to move, there isn't much we can do. If we can get rid of 20 players, we can bring in 20. But if we struggle to get rid of more than 5 or 6, we won't be able to bring in many more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 5 hours ago, Danwichmann said: Ultimately I think it'll depend on how many we can get rid off. If players are in contract, and no one comes in for them or they decide they don't want to move, there isn't much we can do. If we can get rid of 20 players, we can bring in 20. But if we struggle to get rid of more than 5 or 6, we won't be able to bring in many more than that. Other than the ones out of contract this season we might only sell the odd one or two. We'll get offers for some of our "better" players. The majority of our players are nothing special, wouldn't be surprised if we were stuck with most of them. Anyone expecting a complete squad reshuffle is living in the clouds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralJazzman Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 On 11 April 2016 at 23:43, dounavilla said: beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 18 hours ago, Denis242 said: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/12/dwight-gayle-crystal-palace-contract If you haven't known already : Dwight Gayle has signed a new contract at Palace until 2019. Does this new contract make it impossible for us to sign him? said before, part of the gang that went to dubai on the piss with gabby and micah, he's not going to help us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Rumours that Jed Steer will be our number 1 next season, should give an indication of the level of spending to expect next season. wouldn't suprise me if around 5 of the starting 11 for the first game next season are already at or on loan from the club at the moment. I think we will sell Ayew, Gana, and maybe veretout - for fees around what we paid - perhaps a good whack less for Veretout - other than that I do see who we can sell to raise much money .....Grealish ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bunnski Posted April 14, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2016 Rumours that Jed Steer will be our number 1 next season, should give an indication of the level of spending to expect next season. wouldn't suprise me if around 5 of the starting 11 for the first game next season are already at or on loan from the club at the moment. I think we will sell Ayew, Gana, and maybe veretout - for fees around what we paid - perhaps a good whack less for Veretout - other than that I do see who we can sell to raise much money .....Grealish ???? We don't have a manager to make those decisions so don't believe shit articles claiming who our goalie is gonna be. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Bunnski said: We don't have a manager to make those decisions so don't believe shit articles claiming who our goalie is gonna be. No but we have Eric Black who has previously assisted Bruce. Were running at a £27m loss - have very few saleable assets - i think the Lydens, Greens, Gardners, Steers etc will have a good chance of being regular starters next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I don't think we'll end up getting rid of half as many as people are talking about. Probably need to, but it won't happen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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