HanoiVillan Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Genie said: I think Phil Brown could do a similar job at those clubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Even though I don't really like his brand of football its difficult to argue against what he has achieved in such a short space of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: Even though I don't really like his brand of football its difficult to argue against what he has achieved in such a short space of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: This. It's ridiculous that people give him such little credit for what he's achieved so far. Won the Champions League twice and 4 semi finals in a row but he's a "joker" in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Who called him a joker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Who called him a joker? Sorry, the word was clown, not joker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Sorry, the word was clown, not joker. ah right, who said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Genie said: ah right, who said that? 9 hours ago, Zatman said: clown 6 league titles, 3 (possibly 4) cups, 2 champions leagues, club world cups, super cups. In 7 years of management. But he's a "clown" Absolute nonsense, as per. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2016 Yup the guy is obviously an awesome manager. I think City are going to absolutely walk the Premier League next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 **** hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I dont get why people want him to fail and discredit everything he's achieved He created one of the best club teams in history which in turn helped create one of the best national teams in history, people who claim all he did was name messi, Xavi and iniesta every week then put his feet up while they won everything don't understand football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I just think the Jury is out on him as a world class coach. He might well be, but leading the best team in the world (possibly ever) to success is not a great indicator for me. Similar in Germany, its a 1 horse race in the main and they're able to cherry pick the best players from their rivals purely to destabilise them. Its an incredibly fortunate position to be in and a level of success is pretty much a given. He might come to England and tear it up, and credit if he does. I just would reserve judgement until he proves his worth in a slightly more testing environment (like a wet Tuesday night in Stoke ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, PieFacE said: I think City are going to absolutely walk the Premier League next season. Possibly not next season, although I do think they will probably win it. But I think beyond next season they'll be another level. I actually think City have been underperforming for a while. Not massivley, but not quite realising their full potential. I think Pep will achieve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I don't like how his move to Citeh has been handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 1 hour ago, coda said: I don't like how his move to Citeh has been handled. I suspect someone was about to leak the details so the club's had to announce it, can't believe either party wanted to do it this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: I dont get why people want him to fail and discredit everything he's achieved He created one of the best club teams in history which in turn helped create one of the best national teams in history, people who claim all he did was name messi, Xavi and iniesta every week then put his feet up while they won everything don't understand football Spain won Euro 2008 a month before Guardiola took over the Barcelona job playing a similar but better brand of football. as was mentioned before Tito and Enrique have also dominated with same Barca players and nobody is calling them one of the best maybe people also dont trust man who failed a drugs test as a player and cleared on a court technicality especially with Dr.Fuentes allegations about Barcelona as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 41 minutes ago, Zatman said: as was mentioned before Tito and Enrique have also dominated with same Barca players and nobody is calling them one of the best the difference being they did inherit a quality team, pep inherited a team built around ronaldinho and deco, with thuram and zambrotta still playing in defence and edmilson as the holding midfielder, they won nothing in 06/07, including losing the european super cup and even the world club cup, they finished 3rd in la liga and won nothing in rijkaards final year (rijkaard is genuinely an incredibly overrated manager who relied on superstar players and has disappeared from football) barca were in a bad place when pep took over, not sure if its the CL win over arsenal or the games vs chelsea that make people think otherwise shifted the old stars out, brought in alves and pique, promoted busquets and gave messi the prominent role in the team, messi you can argue is all down to timing but the other 3 remain key players in the barca team 8 years later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Pep still inherited a quality team. Puyol, Abidal, Xavi, Messi, Iniesta all about to hit their prime plus Toure, Marquez, Milito and Henry. Barcelona were a Paul Scholes wondergoal away from getting to previous season Champions League final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 4 hours ago, sexbelowsound said: Even though I don't really like his brand of football its difficult to argue against what he has achieved in such a short space of time. At massive clubs with massive budgets it's much, much easier. Hardly makes him a 'great', no where near the level of someone like Mourinho who won the Championship League with Porto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: At massive clubs with massive budgets it's much, much easier. Hardly makes him a 'great', no where near the level of someone like Mourinho who won the Championship League with Porto. Good job I didn't call him great then isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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