VillaChris Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 What happens if Porto and Chelsea draw with Kiev winning? Porto would have a better head-to head record than Chelsea but Kiev would be on 11 points aswell. Is there any formula that knocks Chelsea out on 11 points or do they just need to avoid defeat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 How does this work out Quote higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question; superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question; higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question; higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question; if, after having applied criteria 1 to 4, teams still have an equal ranking, criteria 1 to 4 are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria 6 to 12 apply; superior goal difference in all group matches; higher number of goals scored in all group matches; higher number of away goals scored in all group matches; higher number of wins in all group matches; higher number of away wins in all group matches; lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points); higher club coefficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 No Chelsea and Kiev both go through if Kiev win and the Chelsea v Porto game ends in a draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 only way Chelsea is out is if they lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 yes Porto have blown it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 You never know, a great defensive effort with Casillas saving everything in stuff you Mourinho mode and someoone like Brahimi could nick a goal on the counter attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarjei Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 What a shitty team Man Utd is these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 19 minutes ago, VillaChris said: You never know, a great defensive effort with Casillas saving everything in stuff you Mourinho mode and someoone like Brahimi could nick a goal on the counter attack. So have you seen Iker play in the past two years? He makes almost as many mistakes as Brad Guzan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Yes I know but he despised Mourinho when they were at Madrid together so that could motivate him to roll back the years back to 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Dunno, Casillas has always struck me as a bloke who doesn't like anybody who hasn't been at Real Madrid for at least 20 years. A vendetta against Jose isn't going to magically make him good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarjei Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Getting flashbacks from Villa under Lambert watching that Utd game and Rooney looks like he's trying to do an impression of Barry Bannan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Still looking really poor for English teams...Juventus get a point in their last game and Man. City will finish 2nd so at risk of getting Barca or Munich again. Arsenal have it all to do. Man. United are in big trouble now. You have to think PSV will beat Moscow at home so in that situation they'd need to win in Wolfsburg, that's a tough ask. Chelsea probably have the easiest task but that's not bulletproof either and they might not win their group either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Haha Manyoo fans I hope their whinging gets them Giggs as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Something really annoying about seeing De Bruyne out wide when he plays for City. Hard to describe why it bugs me really, almost like he wants to do more but is restricted. Surprised he hasn't been used as a more central role especially with David Silva out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I think United fans are absolute shocking, team is 2nd in the league and still in Europe yet they complain as if they have some divine right to play like Barcelona or Real Madrid. lot of rose tinted glassed when it comes to Fergie style of football from a lot of people. If they want to see real pain they should watch Villa also have to say Schneiderlein is really not good enough at this level either is Depay but he can probably grow into role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 29 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Still looking really poor for English teams...Juventus get a point in their last game and Man. City will finish 2nd so at risk of getting Barca or Munich again. Arsenal have it all to do. Man. United are in big trouble now. You have to think PSV will beat Moscow at home so in that situation they'd need to win in Wolfsburg, that's a tough ask. Chelsea probably have the easiest task but that's not bulletproof either and they might not win their group either. I guess finishing 2nd to last years finalists is looking the best of the English lot but with the money spent I expect more from Man City. From what I saw Pogba ran the game. but I didn't see it all. United are so dull and I hope Wolfsburg knock them out, Arsenal face a similar situation they had at Monaco last year. They can do it but I wouldn't put any money on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zatman said: I think United fans are absolute shocking, team is 2nd in the league and still in Europe yet they complain as if they have some divine right to play like Barcelona or Real Madrid. lot of rose tinted glassed when it comes to Fergie style of football from a lot of people. If they want to see real pain they should watch Villa also have to say Schneiderlein is really not good enough at this level either is Depay but he can probably grow into role If your team is spending hundreds of millions and fans are paying hundreds of £ to watch, you expect a little more than watching paint dry. LVG football is as boring as pulis. It is shocking. Sport is for entertainment. United fans have every right to complain about the awful football which is being shown to them. And whilst theyre watching this, their biggest rivals sign one of the most exciting managers in world football. i think its a bit unfair to say whether Depay is good enough for this level or not when you got a manager which is limiting freedom as much possible for keep ball and 5000000 triangles in midfield with no intensity, Edited November 25, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 They do seem to be learning from West Ham fans about this mythical "way" they are meant to play LVG isn't there to develop a brand of football he's there to tick boxes, like zatman said 2nd in the league, challenging for the title, box ticked, how they got there is irrelevant in his head As for the fans, **** em, can't stand Utd fans, I bet the majority of them will want pep next summer and his renowned exciting brand of football... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 LVG being there to tick boxes doesnt mean the fans are "shocking" for moaning about how boring their football is when theyre paying money to watch. I actively go out of my way to not watch united play its that bad to watch which is shocking really given the position of the league theyre in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) I think it's pretty damning when a Villa fan finds your style of football abhorrent Edited November 26, 2015 by Keyblade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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