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16 minutes ago, Zatman said:

people said same with Lambert that he be back in Premier League within 12 months and now he is looking further away as possible

That's pretty much irrelevant to Garde though.

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Also, Lambert's biggest job was us.

Garde's was Lyon.

His stock will remain high.

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Just now, StefanAVFC said:

Also, Lambert's biggest job was us.

Garde's was Lyon.

His stock will remain high.

Also his only other job.

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1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said:

Also, Lambert's biggest job was us.

Garde's was Lyon.

His stock will remain high.

taking a consistent Champions League knockout team to Europa League every season. His stock really isnt that great ;)

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46 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

Surely no one blames Remi Garde. He takes 0% of the blame for our relegation and shambolic state. 

Agreed! Why is it so hard for some to see?

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1 minute ago, Zatman said:

taking a consistent Champions League knockout team to Europa League every season. His stock really isnt that great ;)

Financial restrictions only apply to McCarthy's work at Sunderland (where he was terrible) - they don't apply to Garde's time at either Lyon or Villa :detect:

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I think Garde will be ok. He will most likely get a chance to rebuild his reputation at Lyon going by the comments that were coming from that direction in recent weeks. He was always up against it here, and did not have chance to bring in his own players or shape the squad in his image so I think he will probably escape with minimal damage to his reputation. I will probably follow how he gets on in his next role, if only just to cure my curiosity as to whether he is as bad as his record suggests or if he was really hamstrung by the situation he found himself in here at Villa.

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7 minutes ago, bobzy said:

Financial restrictions only apply to McCarthy's work at Sunderland (where he was terrible) - they don't apply to Garde's time at either Lyon or Villa :detect:

Many people rave about Garde at Lyon but it should be noted that when he quit his successor had to lose another 8 players that summer and actually improved Lyon from 5th when Garde left and managed to finish 2nd behind PSG in his 1st season in charge. 

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7 minutes ago, bobzy said:

Financial restrictions only apply to McCarthy's work at Sunderland (where he was terrible) - they don't apply to Garde's time at either Lyon or Villa :detect:

McCarthy had to sign players from League 1 and 2 and made them more competitive than what we have seen under Garde. His big summer signing was Jon Stead and some of his cheap signings signings went on to have decent enough careers like Liam Lawrence and Dean Whitehead plucked from League 2 (made 6 million profit on them 2 alone)

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3 minutes ago, KHV said:

Many people rave about Garde at Lyon but it should be noted that when he quit his successor had to lose another 8 players that summer and actually improved Lyon from 5th when Garde left and managed to finish 2nd behind PSG in his 1st season in charge. 

... can we get him, then?

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14 minutes ago, Zatman said:

taking a consistent Champions League knockout team to Europa League every season. His stock really isnt that great ;)

Yeah but that is ignoring the total rebuild and financial restructuring they did at the time to pay for their new stadium.

Not saying Garde will manage Real Madrid next season, just adding some context

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I liked him and I think he will be a good manager but he had to go as you could see at the Swansea Game he had given up.

 

 

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If Garde didn't do a good job at Lyon, then surely nobody would want him back there?

All I've seen (from my limited knowledge of Lyon) is that most of them would want him back if they had the choice.

As sne says, context is everything but it's easier for some to look at points, or games won and make a judgement.

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3 minutes ago, Zatman said:

McCarthy had to sign players from League 1 and 2 and made them more competitive than what we have seen under Garde. His big summer signing was Jon Stead and some of his cheap signings signings went on to have decent enough careers like Liam Lawrence and Dean Whitehead plucked from League 2 (made 6 million profit on them 2 alone)

Whereas Remi Garde has had to either sell his best players (Toulalan, Pjanic et al), promote almost solely through the youth system (bringing through Lacazette et al) or have no transfer window at all (Villa).

Basically, the context of your post regarding European stuff is entirely wrong - especially since you're giving a manager with the second worst Premier League record of all time a whole load of positives and saying we should bring him in.

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4 minutes ago, Zatman said:

McCarthy had to sign players from League 1 and 2 and made them more competitive than what we have seen under Garde. His big summer signing was Jon Stead and some of his cheap signings signings went on to have decent enough careers like Liam Lawrence and Dean Whitehead plucked from League 2 (made 6 million profit on them 2 alone)

It's a shame Garde's signings didn't have the same sort of impact.

 

Wait...

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2 minutes ago, sne said:

Yeah but that is ignoring the total rebuild and financial restructuring they did at the time to pay for their new stadium.

Not saying Garde will manage Real Madrid next season, just adding some context

it took Hubert Fournier one season to get Champions League though with practically same players

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Just now, bobzy said:

Whereas Remi Garde has had to either sell his best players (Toulalan, Pjanic et al), promote almost solely through the youth system (bringing through Lacazette et al) or have no transfer window at all (Villa).

Basically, the context of your post regarding European stuff is entirely wrong - especially since you're giving a manager with the second worst Premier League record of all time a whole load of positives and saying we should bring him in.

2nd worst to Garde is an improvement ;)

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7 minutes ago, KHV said:

Many people rave about Garde at Lyon but it should be noted that when he quit his successor had to lose another 8 players that summer and actually improved Lyon from 5th when Garde left and managed to finish 2nd behind PSG in his 1st season in charge. 

He won't be going back to Lyon then, will he?

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11 minutes ago, KHV said:

Many people rave about Garde at Lyon but it should be noted that when he quit his successor had to lose another 8 players that summer and actually improved Lyon from 5th when Garde left and managed to finish 2nd behind PSG in his 1st season in charge. 

Yet Pearson was the genius at Leicester and Ranieri is only looking after the house Nigel built, apparently.

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