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  BOF - "We're not exactly a mile off EVEN WITH Tim in charge."  

Actually, I think we are exactly a mile off. Bottom of the table with 4 points from 11 games looks pretty much like a (metaphorical) mile to me.

4pts from safety is a mile to you? Blimey. Whatever you want to call it is up to you I suppose.

You could only say we are "4 points from safety" if we were about 2 or 3 games away from the end of the season. I can assure you that getting four more points will not make us "safe". Although I recognise that blind optimism is the current theme on here..

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  BOF - "We're not exactly a mile off EVEN WITH Tim in charge."  

Actually, I think we are exactly a mile off. Bottom of the table with 4 points from 11 games looks pretty much like a (metaphorical) mile to me.

 

 

4pts from safety is a mile to you? Blimey. Whatever you want to call it is up to you I suppose.

 

You could only say we are "4 points from safety" if we were about 2 or 3 games away from the end of the season. I can assure you that getting four more points will not make us "safe". Although I recognise that blind optimism is the current theme on here..

 

Personally I don't think it's blind optimism. To make up 4 points on those around us and kick on with a possible 81 points still left to play for isn't an impossible task at the moment, far from it. Maybe it will be 7 points after the weekend, who knows. Maybe Garde doesn't get us winning straight away, or maybe not at all?! The bottom line is I think most chose to be upbeat about the situation and have belief rather than cry, moan or accept championship football before it's a mathematical certainty. I know that's exactly how I feel about it and tie that in with the fact that I believe we have enough quality in the squad to stay up with the right guidance, maybe those writing us of already are the ones that are blind?!

 

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I only speak for myself here, but a few posters on here seem to imply that if you aren't positive about Villa going forward then we're overly negative, whining and almost wallowing in self pity. That's not the case. I don't feel I'm being negative, just realistic but recognise that everyone has a differing opinion. What I would say that is despite my views as to our predicament and the quality of our squad I still support Villa 100% at VP and have not given up - I just feel we have to tread water til January as I think however good Garde may be, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear! Realising this means more pressure should build on Lerner supplying significant money in January - it worries me that some people seem to think a change of manager is enough. I just don't see it. 

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I suppose it boils down to whether you think the current crop of players are actually not completely shit and have just been terribly managed up until this point.

I think they're not as good as most think, but certainly not as shit as they are currently playing, so somewhere in between, hopefully 4th from bottom in between.

The issue is creating a confident environment to win games, moral must terrible and needs to be massively improved for us to have any chance.

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I only speak for myself here, but a few posters on here seem to imply that if you aren't positive about Villa going forward then we're overly negative, whining and almost wallowing in self pity. That's not the case. I don't feel I'm being negative, just realistic but recognise that everyone has a differing opinion. What I would say that is despite my views as to our predicament and the quality of our squad I still support Villa 100% at VP and have not given up - I just feel we have to tread water til January as I think however good Garde may be, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear! Realising this means more pressure should build on Lerner supplying significant money in January - it worries me that some people seem to think a change of manager is enough. I just don't see it. 

I don't think anybody is suggesting that you have to be positive going forward. In fact I think the vast majority of fans have a pretty pessimistic view of Villa right now, myself included, you only have to look at Limpid's optimism meter to see that. 

A change of manager might not be enough, but it was the best thing we could do in our scenario, as the previous manager was the worst one we've ever had. That's what's breeding the slight spark of optimism, because Sherwood was a big problem that we have got rid of. Whether Garde is a big enough improvement to keep us up remains to be seen. It's a big ask.

 

 

(on a side note, I hate this "i'm not being negative, I'm being realistic". Everybody, regardless of their opinion, is being "realistic" in their eyes, otherwise they wouldn't be saying it. If I genuinely thought we'd still win the league this season, I'd say I was being realistic. Just saying you're being realistic instead of negative doesn't mean you're opinion is suddenly the realistic one and everyone else is being unrealistic :D )

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In the grand scheme of things, with so many games to go and so many points to play for, 4 points really isn't a lot to pull back. I guess people are looking at our next 6 games and imagining that the 4 point gap will be 6, 8 or even 10 points but the reality is that we won't know what it will be until after those games have been played. Who knows, we might get 5 or 6 points ourselves and there might not even be a gap after those games. 

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This is the best thing I've heard yet. Paul Merson thinks we should have gone a different way.

“I would go and get Nigel Pearson tomorrow morning,” Merson said. “I think Tim [Sherwood] was unlucky, but now he’s not there I would go and get Nigel Pearson.

“He’s proven, the job he’s done at Leicester City was phenomenal.

“You bring in Remi Garde, a foreign manager who has never worked in the Premier League, and he might take six months to get used to it. By then, it could be all over.”

Why the **** didn't we hire Nigel Pearson?! You couldn't make it up.

I'm sorry but 98% of ex footballers (Gary Neville and some others are in those 2%) are complete and utter idiots.

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I'm optimistic we can turn this around, based on the fact that in none of the loses we have took a hiding,infact many of the loses have been self inflicted either by ridiculous managerial decisions - such as when 2-0 up at Leicester and not packing midfield, playing 5 at the back at home to Stoke then reverting to a flat back 4 at halftime only to play Crespo instead of Lescott (for all his faults) as the other CB- or by individual errors Amavi at Palace,Guzan at Chelsea. Hopefully with Garde the first part I mentioned can be addressed.

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