VillaChris Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You do wonder what the tipping point is for Garde though....he couldn't survive barely winning a game for the rest of the season surely? No manager survives going 20 odd games without a win unless I've missed something, Remi must be over 10 by now. Only thing you can conclude is the board would lose confidence in his ability to getting the team promotion next year which I've never been convinced about, it's unlikely you walk the championship when you go into it losing week after week after week.....Derby didn't in 2008 for example and atm we're on their level as sad as it is. Better to do the groundwork now as others have stated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I think if the fans start going against chairman and board at games then they will panic and sack him as a way to show they are trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Xela said: Last 4 games in charge at Blackburn - 0 goals scored He's lost his head there already I really only wanted a new Benteke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villanun Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Zatman said: I think if the fans start going against chairman and board at games then they will panic and sack him as a way to show they are trying That would imply the board are paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I'm at the point when I couldn't care less who was in charge. We are relegated regardless. I haven't seen any signs of Garde being the man to take us forward over the long term but then I accept it is difficult to show that over such a short period with a team that isn't his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 10, 2016 Moderator Share Posted January 10, 2016 I think if results continue, he's much more likely to jump than be pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Sacking would be pointless, so sack him at this point - and then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I just want a manager who I'd be fairly confident would mount a promotion push next season, it's now beyond whether a manager would be capable at premier league level as we won't be here for much longer. Are we all still confident on here Remi will be winning us 20 + games next season as that's what I will be demanding. Even to stay up in the championship you need 50 odd points usually so you need to win that number just to be well clear of relegation. I have to say I didn't want Nigel Pearson when Sherwood was sacked as something is bugging me that away from the environment at Leicester he'd get found out. But that was in relation to keeping us up. Being in the championship, the dynamics change. He's regularly finished in the top 6 in that league (3 top 6 finishes in last 6 seasons). It wouldn't shock me now if he's our manager at some point in the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2016 We've got enough time now to make a good assessment of Garde's talents. We're not staying up. We could appoint Mourinho, Ferguson, Guardiola, Ancelotti, anybody and we wouldn't stay up now. No point in sacking Garde. Let's give him the season and we'll be in a good position by the end of it to decide if he's capable of getting us up next season. Personally, I don't think he's performing particularly well right now, but I think he has the ability to work in the long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2016 This season is already over, I think this is why I don't actually care about Garde's win ratio, in my mind his job starts proper in the summer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 the last time I saw a club in a similar poisonous mess was Newcastle 08/09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: the last time I saw a club in a similar poisonous mess was Newcastle 08/09 Let's hope our fate is similar to theirs all things considered. Yes they are in the shit too but on 17 points, not 8 and they went down and came back stronger than ever until the last couple seasons. I'd take vying for Premier League safety again in a season or two like they are as it would at least mean we made it back and didn't do a Leeds.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: the last time I saw a club in a similar poisonous mess was Newcastle 08/09 Blackburn 11/12. Their fans raging at Steve Kean was something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 For me he was always a risk. I have not seen anything to convince me nothing has changed . He is a football coach allegedly but again nothing on the pitch has changed. It has got a whole lot worse. I don't want to keep appointing managers when the club is so rotten but this poor momentum can't go on into the championship.we need an experienced manager with championship experience in order to have any chance of a return stick or twist but I feel if we don't make the change and continue with the French experiment we will be in the second tier for a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Blasterpocket68 said: For me he was always a risk. I have not seen anything to convince me nothing has changed . He is a football coach allegedly but again nothing on the pitch has changed. It has got a whole lot worse. It really hasn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, Jareth said: This season is already over, I think this is why I don't actually care about Garde's win ratio, in my mind his job starts proper in the summer window. I hope he doesn't see it like that, he needs to be striving for improvement and results now to take into the championship. Not capitulate for the rest of the entire season and hope "it'll be alright on the night" in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 It has got worse from previous regime though, lack of anything up top, weaker defence and still consistently playing the same crap players every week. Rather throw on Under 16 players than Guzan, Sinclair, Gestede or Westwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It really hasn't. It's hardly improved though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I think the person doing the potential sacking should probably take a walk first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted January 10, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2016 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: It's hardly improved though. Maybe not. I personally think certain things have definitely improved, but the defence hasn't and that has stopped that being turned into results. Like I said above, I don't think it's good enough. I don't think Garde is performing particularly well at the moment. But I do think it's better than what Sherwood left us with. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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