weedman Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Us signing Vidic would be basically the same as QPR signing Ferdinand. Great, world class players in their day, now old and past it and probably with a choice of retire now or grab an extra 6 months of £100k a week then retire. Big name to calm the fanbase a bit until we realise be hasn't got it anymore. I'd love to be wrong, Vidic in his prime was immense, I just see too many parallels 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 9 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Honestly, even if Vidic's legs have only half gone, I can't think of a better signing for us. Best centre half in the world in his prime. A leader, a winner, vocal, relentless, a dirty bastard. If he's fit, yes please. He has only played once of twice this season due to injury. We do not need him taking his wages out of the club like Sendoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 No idea why my above post is quoting Arj but the only way I could get rid of it was to post it???? Anyway, it's the 21st and not 1 new player has signed, even on loan. Hollis must think he's a miracle worker, I'd love to read his CI project for this. With every day that passes by I dislike Randy Lerner more and more. Love Villa hate Lerner. I can't imagine any lack of signing so far has much to do with lerner this time around. Well one of the two envisioned scenarios incriminates him. 1. Nobody wants to join in our predicament 2. The board have given up and accepted relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Well one of the two envisioned scenarios incriminates him. 1. Nobody wants to join in our predicament 2. The board have given up and accepted relegation 1. Of course that's ultimately his fault. What I meant is he's not actuvely stopping us signing anyone this window. The whole mess is his fault. 2. I don't think that would mean we wouldn't sign anyone, just that the budget is different. I think our lack of signigns is due to us being bottom of the league and cut adrift. Yes that's ultimately lerner's fault, but I inferred from Sean's post that he meant lerner was sat there telling us we couldn't sign anyone, when I don't imagine he's had any input into the decision this time around except for budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The damage was done in the summer. I don't blame the board for not splashing out and gambling with big wages in January, it could cripple the club even more. We're a very poor side who will get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: The damage was done in the summer. I don't blame the board for not splashing out and gambling with big wages in January, it could cripple the club even more. We're a very poor side who will get relegated. Sad thing is a lot of the players bought in the summer have been our best players this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Sad thing is a lot of the players bought in the summer have been our best players this season. We just needed to spend a little more. Just 20m on a keeper, striker and right back. Oh and a manager would have been nice too. I think the Leicester game destroyed us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted January 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Sad thing is a lot of the players bought in the summer have been our best players this season. Whether you agree with this or not, it doesn't change the fact that we needed far more in the summer. We finished 17th last season and needed to sign players on top of what we had anyway. Instead, we sold 3 key players, kept all the dross and then signed players who would take time to adjust to the prem. It was absolute f******* madness. We were nailed on to get relegated after our business in the summer. Fox and co. (the bunch of f****** clowns) should be strung up and never allowed to work in football again. W******s. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Honestly, even if Vidic's legs have only half gone, I can't think of a better signing for us. Best centre half in the world in his prime. A leader, a winner, vocal, relentless, a dirty bastard. If he's fit, yes please. He has only played once of twice this season due to injury. We do not need him taking his wages out of the club like Sendoros You're comparing one of the best defenders of the last 20 years to Philip Senderos. Though I agree with the sentiment, we need to make sure he's actually able to play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Sad thing is a lot of the players bought in the summer have been our best players this season. I agree that the French players have been our better players, by some distance actually. But given that they took a few months to settle, its also fair (I think) to say they were probably the wrong signings at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Sad thing is a lot of the players bought in the summer have been our best players this season. We just needed to spend a little more. Just 20m on a keeper, striker and right back. Oh and a manager would have been nice too. I think the Leicester game destroyed us. Taking Sanchez off... Completely mental. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2016 37 minutes ago, weedman said: Us signing Vidic would be basically the same as QPR signing Ferdinand. Great, world class players in their day, now old and past it and probably with a choice of retire now or grab an extra 6 months of £100k a week then retire. Big name to calm the fanbase a bit until we realise be hasn't got it anymore. I'd love to be wrong, Vidic in his prime was immense, I just see too many parallels What are the parallels though? That they're both old? Rio was a couple of years older than Vidic when he signed for QPR. That's a lot at that age. I don't really see any parallels. Plenty of older players go to clubs and can still do a job. Some don't. I don't think you can conclude that Vidic wouldn't work out just because Rio didn't work out. I could quite easily point to Cambiasso going to Leicester at the age of 34 and doing very well for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, av1 said: I agree that the French players have been our better players, by some distance actually. But given that they took a few months to settle, its also fair (I think) to say they were probably the wrong signings at the time. This. It would have been a very good window if we had a solid team to build on. but we didn't. We ran before we could walk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Taking Sanchez off... Completely mental. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Pretty sure O'Leary tried to sign Vidic about 6 months before he went to ManUre and Ellis wouldn't stump up the cash, so it's only about 10 years too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_Bob Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: My concern with Vidic is that be another Ronny Johnson who was past it when we signed him. lescott another example And Paul McGrath a third? In our situation we need experienced players on short term contracts. I can't really think of anyone that is better, available and likely to accept to come here on a short term contract. Yes, we can sign Vidic and still fail. But why is that much worse than signing someone else and fail? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: You're comparing one of the best defenders of the last 20 years to Philip Senderos. Though I agree with the sentiment, we need to make sure he's actually able to play football. Only comparing in terms of never actually playing for us, not his ability which i thought was clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Dont get this ready to bid business... Does Fox sit with his hand on the phone contemplating it for a while before hand http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/21/report-aston-villa-preparing-surprise-5m-bid-to-sign-out-of-form/ Aston Villa are reportedly ready to bid £5m for Celtic midfielder Stefan Johansen. Embed from Getty Images According to The Scottish Sun, Aston Villa are plotting a £5m move to sign Celtic midfielder Stefan Johansen - but manager Ronny Deila wants to keep him in Glasgow. Villa edged past Wycombe Wanderers in the FA Cup on Tuesday night, winning their replay 2-0 at Villa Park, but the attention turns back towards their fight against relegation this weekend, as they take on local rivals West Bromwich Albion away from home. Villa currently sit ten points adrift of safety in the Premier League, with Remi Garde's men sitting bottom of the table after just two wins this term. If Villa are to have any chance of staying up, they will need new signings this month, and Garde has so far failed to bring any new faces to Villa Park. However, The Scottish Sun report that Villa are preparing a £5m move to sign Celtic midfielder Stefan Johansen during this month's transfer window. Johansen, 25, joined the Bhoys from Stromsgodset in his native Norway back in January 2014, and he was vital for Ronny Deila's men last season, smashing 13 goals in 56 games from midfield to fire Celtic to the Scottish Premiership title. This term though, Johansen hasn't quite been himself, and whilst a lingering back issue has been troubling, he's simply been out of form for the first half of the season, scoring just four goals in 25 games this season. With 18 months left on his contract, it's stated that Aston Villa are hoping to lure Johansen to the Premier League with a £5m offer - but they won't land him easily. SEE ALSO: It's stated that Bhoys manager Deila - who worked with Johansen at Stromsgodset - is keen to keep Johansen at Celtic Park, and even wants to offer him a new contract to ward off Villa's interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Words like "ready" and "preparing" are just journalism 101 Means that when it doesn't happen the paper can claim the article was vague enough to not imply fact 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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