Chindie Posted October 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2020 If the kids want to eat they can get on their bikes and find a job. Or get back up the chimneys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Tory MP April 2020: Footballers need to play their part Tory MP October 2020: Footballers need to stop virtue signalling It would be funny, if they weren’t filling their pockets with our money whilst drinking subsidised booze after 10:00pm in their private bar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2020 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 From Private Eye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 It's fascinating reading this thread back from the beginning, it was truncated so it's not quite the slog it sounds. Also the Brexit thread, start around the time of the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Sample menu from one of the subsidised MP's dining rooms in Parliament. Cost to the taxpayer - £4.4m annually. All in it together. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 We need a couple of new 'Like' icons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Worth remembering this in light of last night's vote IMO, especially given the parade of 'why don't they get on their bike' comments from backbench MPs and love-my-club-love-my-dogs-hate-lefties Twitter bios: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darrenm Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just some random musings I'm finding it really difficult to care about any of this recently. I gave everything since 2015 to try to convince others that the country had swayed too far to the right since the 1970s and it needed to sway to the left to course correct. But others weren't interested. I'm not sure I could've done any more. I ask myself if it's because the centre point of that effort for me was Corbyn and I was in a cult. And now he's gone I ask if the fates of the poor, the homeless, the hungry kids don't matter as much to me. If so, that's really troubling to me because it suggests narcissism on my part. I don't think that's the case though. I think it's that the problems we have at the moment have always been there and I feel so utterly deflated that if people in the UK were shown Grenfell, increasing poverty levels, record foodbank use, rising homelessness, and said "yep, I'm happy with all that", how are we ever going to fix this? I love this land but I'm starting to despise some of the people in it and I'm feeling like what's the point? We can't change it even if enough people could be convinced to want the change, which they don't. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 A very good friend of mine's cousin is the MP for a well-known midlands seat. He's falling out with a lot of friends trying to defend her actions - voting against Free School Meal's etc...naturally I stirred the pot by noting that she'd also voted against the Grenfell inquiry recommendations...pretty disgusting. His argument is that as a brand new MP, she has to "follow the whip" despite what she really thinks (and presumedly expresses in private?). Does that make it any less disgusting? I think it makes it worse as being coerced into doing voting against your own opinions and conscience shows a massive lack of personal and professional character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 Conversely, I'd say it reveals a lot of personal and professional character. Just nothing good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: A very good friend of mine's cousin is the MP for a well-known midlands seat. He's falling out with a lot of friends trying to defend her actions - voting against Free School Meal's etc...naturally I stirred the pot by noting that she'd also voted against the Grenfell inquiry recommendations...pretty disgusting. His argument is that as a brand new MP, she has to "follow the whip" despite what she really thinks (and presumedly expresses in private?). Does that make it any less disgusting? I think it makes it worse as being coerced into doing voting against your own opinions and conscience shows a massive lack of personal and professional character. Well she didn't become a Tory MP by accident. It's not something you win in a raffle. Whoever she is, she's an absolute danger who thoroughly believes in this stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 i ended up on they work for you seeing how Garnier voted (wyre forest) unsurprisingly he voted against it, ive seen a fair bit of it before but his voting record is absolute madness, id be surprised if a quarter of his constituents had a clue what he's up to (or more worryingly even care) this seems to be the cherry on the top of a huge shit sundae though, people are starting to see through them, im not sure they could handle 2020 any worse there just needs to be a real alternative, in the last election labour put forward a token journeyman candidate who lost his 4th election in a 4th different constituency (who didn't even live in wyre forest which for me is a big no no) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I wouldn't defend a Tory MP on the basis of them being family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I wanted to be a tory MP but the background checks revealed I had a father. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 22, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2020 Apologies for posting a Reach Media Tweet but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 You'd like to think people are seeing through all this but.. Please sir can I have some more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Lost for words at this point, what do the electorate actually want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Conservatives are something the majority of people in this country aspire to. They see them as middle-class people, living middle class lives, with middle class things and aspire to it. We'd all love a big detatched house in the Cotswolds, driving round in a Land Rover with your Ray Bans, going on holiday abroad a few times a year. It's the illusion of success, the feeling of superiority we feel over others less educated, less well dressed, less "chic" as ourselves. We love it. It's not gonna change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted October 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Lost for words at this point, what do the electorate actually want? Tories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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